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more on two notes on the economics of Hot spots etc.
From: David Farber <dfarber () earthlink net>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:51:59 -0400
-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Seybold <Andy () outlook4mobility com> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:45:01 To:dave () farber net Subject: RE: <[IP]> more on two notes on the economics of Hot spots etc. My answer is that I should have said "No Wireless terrestrial system has ever made money as a data only provider", and looking at Sky's example I can see where he gets his optimism from. However, what is happening in the Wi-Fi market today is akin to the Internet bubble--and we all know how that burst--somebody will figure out how to make money in the hotspot space but I do not believe that it will be any of the existing players nor Cometa. Best Regards, Andy Seybold Outlook 4Mobility www.outlook4mobility.com -----Original Message----- From: David Farber <[mailto:dfarber () earthlink net]> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 7:31 AM To: ip-sub-1 () v2 listbox com Subject: <[IP]> more on two notes on the economics of Hot spots etc. -----Original Message----- From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey () jefsey com> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:42:31 To:dave () farber net Subject: Re: <<[IP]>> two notes on the economics of Hot spots etc. On 13:05 11/12/02, Dave Farber said:
Since no terrestrial network has ever made money offering data-only services, what do these folks know that the rest of the industry does
not? I am sorry but this is untrue. Tymnet did. As a former head of Tymnet International I can testify that creating and running the namespace in an open way, carrying international secure data, integrating extended services (what IAB calls OPES, ES for ... edge services) in a way permitting VPN to deploy and prosper, does permit to make a good return. The same for OSI operators such as Transpac. etc.. When I joined datacoms in 1977 I heard but unfortunately did not applied lately a simple golden rule "you will make money in that business whatever you do, except if you use the ARPANET technology" I then quickly learned another rule (I stick to) which explains the whole industries (telecoms and datacoms) problem: "one does not sell a network system to its users but to who needs it to be used". Obviously modelizing properly information technology, communications and brainware as parts of the network system also helps a lot. jfc ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as andy () outlook4mobility com To unsubscribe or update your address, click http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To unsubscribe or update your address, click http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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