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From: David Farber <dfarber () earthlink net>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:10:24 -0400

Comment. When I read the paper I was with it till the CDC like proposal. The it sounded contradictory with the main 
text and SOUNDED like the standard " and fund us to do it" text. 

I have too much respec for the authors. They need to fill in the missing logic in the paper. 

Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: David Wagner <daw () cs berkeley edu>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 09:10:42 
To: farber () cis upenn edu
Subject: IP: more on  Mind-blowing-- How to own the Internet
        in yourspare time

In article <B91A3610.108F2%dave () farber net> Sam Bennett wrote:
I would find it very difficult to believe that the top dogs in the network
security industries haven't spent a lot more time and money contemplating
future exploits (obviously with the somewhat more realistic goal of stiffing
businesses for as much money as they can) than this bunch.

Believe it!  The authors of this paper are thinking beyond of industry's
horizon.  These three folks are leaders in the field.  You might want
to study the area a bit more, as I believe your comment is off the mark.

I do believe the authors have identified a real risk.  Worms are getting
more sophisticated, and the paper attempts to extrapolate to imagine
how things might look in a few years.  The results are troubling.
We've got a little bit of advance warning, thanks to their efforts:
let's use it wisely.  We could discuss whether a CDC-like entity is the
right solution or not, but let's not just ignore the problem.

As for the rest of your comments, I find it disappointing that your
remarks relied so heavily on appeals to emotion, and I would have
preferred to see the notes on this list oriented at a more constructive
dialog.  We've got a potential problem on our hands, and things could
potentially get a lot worse in the future.  What do we do about it?
What are the appropriate preventative measures?  Now's the time to
start thinking.

For the paper under discussing, see
http://www.icir.org/vern/papers/cdc-usenix-sec02/index.html

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