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From: David Farber <farber () tmail com>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:38:41 -0500
-----Original Message----- From: Paul E. Robichaux <paul () robichaux net> To: dave () farber net CC: gep2 () terabites com Subject: RE: [IP] Airline war use Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:27:50 -0500Sorry, but Gordon has gotten (and is disseminating) some bad information. A simple Google search would have turned up tons of information, especially
since the CRAF activation was publically announced yesterday.American, United, Delta, and other major US carriers are part of the Civil
Reserve Air Fleet (CRAF), a government program that allows the USAF toaugment their airlift capacity in time of need. Originally established in 1951, the program is a tradeoff. Airlines who sign up become eligible to get
government contracts for airlift services-- one reference(http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/Civil_Reserve_Air_Fleet.html) indicates that in FY '99 the value of these contracts was at least US$345MM. In return, the airlines are subject to having a portion of their fleet called up for military transport use. A more up-to-date version of the same fact sheet is at http://public.amc.af.mil/library/facts/craffact.htm; it claims a minimum
contract value of US$394MM.According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), CRAF has been routinely used since the Vietnam War, including to support US military or humanitarian
ops in Bosnia, Haiti, Panama, and Rwanda. See http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=11&sequence=9. There is an interesting GAO report(http://www.intellnet.org/documents/1200/010/1211.pdf) that suggests that while CRAF is still useful, it could use some tweaking to better match the US' military airlift requirements.In particular, some airlines don't get to play in the fairly lucrative cargo segment because they don't fly 747s.
The airlines *do* get paid for their CRAF airlift missions, according to
Chapter 931, US Code Title 10. See http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title10/subtitled_partiv_chapter931_.html.In particular, section 9512 (b)(3) of that law says that contracts shall provide "that the contractor operating the aircraft for the Department of Defense shall be paid for that operation at fair and reasonable rates." In fact, the airlines' biggest worry appears to be whether too many aircraft will be called up-- they only get paid per flight hour, according to an LA
Times story by Esther Schrader, who wrote:"The way the Pentagon has done this has been very responsive," said Ron Priddy, a spokesman for the National Air Carrier Association. "At this level of participation, I don't believe that any air carrier has been damaged,
particularly in light of what they will be paid, and assuming that theDepartment of Defense will be able to use all the huge airlift that they have called up. The problem is whether these aircraft will sit because they have
been called up." Cheers, -Paul -----Original Message----- From: Dave Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Tue 2/11/2003 03:39 To: ip Cc: Subject: [IP] Airline war use ------ Forwarded Message From: gep2 () terabites com Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:14:05 -0600 To: dallasdemocrats () egroups com, HomeOfTheBrave () yahoogroups com, CitizensForLegitimateGovernment () yahoogroups com, dave () farber net, DiehardDems () yahoogroups com Subject: This is a pisser... <---- Begin Forwarded Message ----> To: gep2 () terabites com Subject: This is a pisser... Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:39:43 -0600 No matter what lies the Bush administration continues to feed the American people, or the possible consequences, we are going to war against Iraq as soon as March 1. How do I know? American Airlines sent an email to employees this past week (my roomie is a flight attendant there) letting them know that the Federal government has ordered AA to make at least 10 jets along with crew available starting March 1 for "war use". Now that is just AA...but surely every major airline in the US that has international flight cpability has also received the same marching orders. On top of all this, the airline is not reimbursed at all for use of the craft, crew pay, or the lost revenue. Not only does this war have the potential of ruining the US in the World's eyes, but it could finally drive the major US airlines into bankruptcy. Just a happy little thought I figured you would enjoy passing on, Gordon, since I know your contacts are much more substantial than mine are. <---- End Forwarded Message ----> Gordon Peterson http://personal.terabites.com/ 1977-2002 Twenty-fifth anniversary year of Local Area Networking! Support the Anti-SPAM Amendment! Join at http://www.cauce.org/ 12/19/98: Partisan Republicans scornfully ignore the voters they "represent". 12/09/00: the date the Republican Party took down democracy in America. ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as paul () robichaux net To unsubscribe or update your address, click http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ -- Dave ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To unsubscribe or update your address, click http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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