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( a real student speaks) Does File Trading Fund Terrorism?
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:33:37 -0500
------ Forwarded Message From: Alexandros Papadopoulos <apapadop () cmu edu> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:30:56 -0500 To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Does File Trading Fund Terrorism? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 March 2003 09:51, Dave Farber wrote:
------ Forwarded Message From: Mary Shaw <mary.shaw () cs cmu edu> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:48:15 -0500 To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Does File Trading Fund Terrorism? OK, let's throw some college kid in the slammer for 33 months (where on earth did that number come from) for stealing a few hundred dollars worth of DVDs. But only if we throw the Enron execs and their confederates in Andersen in the same slammer for proportionally long sentences -- that would be about 33 billion months, wouldn't it? Have we lost all sense of proportion? [ yes we have -- in more ways than one djf]
I'm glad to see many appalled by this kind of cowboy-politics, but would nevertheless like to note an important point people usually don't pay heed to: A student participating in file swapping is not "stealing" DVDs. Calling file swapping "stealing" relies on the premise that the student would shell out the $$$ to buy the DVD, if the material was not available for free. This is a big assumption, usually not true. To draw a parallelism to this, I occasionally read the newspapers my father buys, but I wouldn't buy one of my own. So, am I a "pirate" for not buying a copy of my own and reading his newspapers [0]? Or is it socially acceptable to share other kinds of information, but not DVDs and music, because, errr... yes. [1] Ah, here Valenti and his gang are talking about "intellectual property", which is as ludicrous as their efforts to connect file sharing with the terrorism propaganda. [2] Since when is this society geared towards extracting as much consumer surplus possible for $MEGACORP, and not towards educating, entertaining and generally raising the standard of living for the general population? - -A [0] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html [1] Of course they will say that this hurts their business. But what's most important, the benefit of society, or a couple billion $$$ more for $MEGACORP? [2] If they had any shame/decency in them, they wouldn't dare talk about "intellectual property". This is just a propaganda term, which tries to make people feel they're ripping an artist off when they copy a DVD. This is totally untrue. See http://dir.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html for a practical approach on the matter. - -- http://andrew.cmu.edu/~apapadop/pub_key.asc 3DAD 8435 DB52 F17B 640F D78C 8260 0CC1 0B75 8265 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ci3xgmAMwQt1gmURApgFAJkBbsfijqu520JQ9XFxUghoutXc2wCdFaPQ R275rFT4RdW9be6xhUtqaAg= =vcPW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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