Interesting People mailing list archives
more on New Website: John Gilmore vs. 'Papers, Please'
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:37 -0400
___ Dave Farber +1 412 726 9889 ...... Forwarded Message ....... From: Patrick W Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> To: dave () farber net Cc: Patrick W Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:05:50 -0400 Subj: Re: [IP] more on New Website: John Gilmore vs. 'Papers, Please' On Aug 16, 2004, at 3:50 PM, David Farber wrote:
One more time, people--you do NOT have a right to travel on an airplane without identifying yourself. There is NO SUCH RIGHT. The airlines are perfectly free to set reasonable requirements for its passengers. For instance, if you're disabled or obese, you can't sit in the emergency exit row, for fear of trapping people on the plane during an accident. You don't like it, stay on the ground.
I believe if you read the site, the complaint centers around the government's restriction, not the airline's. Also, there are serious questions around the idea of a 'secret' law - changing weekly, inconsistent between airlines and/or locations, and transmitted orally no less. Besides, Mr. Gilmore (NB: no relation that I know of) does not seem to object to being screened for weapons just like any other passenger. And his point about essentially not being able to travel at all (planes, trains, ships, and buses!) without "showing papers" does strike a cord with me. Whether or not you think everyone should show ID to get on an airplane, or whether you agree in general with Mr. Gilmore, I think anyone born and raised in "the Land of the Free" should have at least some of the same questions Mr. Gilmore does. -- TTFN, patrick ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
Current thread:
- more on New Website: John Gilmore vs. 'Papers, Please' David Farber (Aug 17)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- more on New Website: John Gilmore vs. 'Papers, Please' David Farber (Aug 17)
- more on New Website: John Gilmore vs. 'Papers, Please' Dave Farber (Aug 17)