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Some more facts: Torture by proxy/How immigration threw a traveler tothewolves
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:39:21 -0400
-----Original Message----- From: Brad Templeton <btm () templetons com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 11:11:23 To:Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Cc:perl () lucent com, rdp () yikes com Subject: Some more facts: Torture by proxy/How immigration threw a traveler to thewolves Naturally I have particular sympathy for Arar, who like me is a computer scientist and mathematician (He holds a bachelor's in computer engineering and a PhD in Mathematics) and like me, travels on a Canadian passport. A few other salient details -- this story has gotten of course much more play in Canada than in the USA. a) Arar was not trying to enter the USA. He was just doing a plane change in NYC coming in from Europe and going on to Montreal. Since then the USA has cancelled the program that let you stay in a controlled area to change planes in the USA without entering it. He was then, bizarrely, deported not back to Europe (normal procedure for those who fail immigration) or to Canada (his place of citizenship to which he was flying) but to Syria. b) The organization that he was accused of assocation with, the Muslim Brotherhood, is an anti-Syrian-government organization, trying to bring down the repressive Syrian regime, very much in line with US goals. So when they sent him to Syria, they tortured him not to help the USA, but to see if he was one of their own enemies. c) Arar had been investigated on these associations, and cleared, in Canada. That got his name in the files though, and thus got him pulled from the airport. The RCMP's complicity in this is an issue of contention in Canada right now. d) Canada issued a travel advisory after this, warning Canadians who were born in certain Arab nations "to avoid travelling to the USA." Yup, the USA is the sort of dangerous country travel advisories get issued on. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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