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more on 4 Rivals Almost United on Ways to Fight Spam


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:30:19 -0400



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From: David Damerell <damerell () chiark greenend org uk>
Date: June 29, 2004 9:17:48 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: Subject: Re: [IP] more on 4 Rivals Almost United on Ways to Fight Spam
Reply-To: damerell () chiark greenend org uk

Of the big ISPs and webmail providers "uniting" to fight spam.

Unfortunately, Carl/AOL are rather unique in this regard.  Some
examples:
        - Nobody from Comcast has been observed there.
        - The one person from Verizon who *was* there has announced
                that he's resigned his position.
        - The one person from Yahoo abuse was laid off several
                years ago.  Nobody has been seen since.
        - Nobody from Microsoft has been seen there in years.
        - I don't recall ever seeing anyone from Hotmail there.
        - Nobody from UUNet has been seen there in years.
        - and so on.

The situation with Hotmail is considerably worse;

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/05/ms_bonded_sender/

A brief extract:
Marketing firms who post a cash bond of up to $20,000 through IronPort's
"Bonded Sender Programme" will get guarantees that their message will be
delivered to the estimated 170 million regular users of Microsoft's
Hotmail and MSN e-mail services, providing they follow a strict set of
guidelines.

In simpler terms, Hotmail propose to make money from spam by letting
spammers pay for unimpeded access to victims.
--
David Damerell <damerell () chiark greenend org uk> flcl?

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