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[MEA]election (fwd)


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 19:35:09 -0500



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From: chodge5 () utk edu
Date: November 5, 2004 7:06:57 PM EST
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Re: [MEA]election (fwd)


This information was posted to the Media Ecology list and might be of
interest to IP. I've deleted all the personal info re: the original
poster.

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I'll avoid emotion on this one and simply point to growing evidence of
major problems with electronic voting machines This story
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041105/ap_on_el_pr/ voting_problems
from AP via Yahoo, reports that Bush got 3893 extra votes on a single
Ohio voting machine. Other sites, including http://blackboxvoter.org and
http://blackboxvoter.com (two different organizations) are reporting
other descrepencies. One of these organizations, black box voter dot org
(http://blackboxvoter.org) is attempting to investigate these reports
and is apparently filing a freedom of information request for the black
boxes on over 3000 voting machines. Of course evidence is worth nothing
if you don't have a way to open the election to a recount, and there are
now reports that Ralph Nader may be willing to mount such a challenge,
opening the door to rechecking results in as many as 34 states.

Before you dismiss this as meaningless, note that the difference in Ohio
is currently 130,000 votes. If the one machine that we have a report on
is extrapolated to other machines (and that may or may not be a
reasonable thing to do), Bush would get that many votes from only 34
machines. The issue may or may not be fraud, but if it is, there are
many more than 34 electronic voting machines in Ohio and Florida.
Indeed, the many electronic voting machines in Ohio would allow much
smaller numbers to do the job. Indeed, if there was only half that much
fraud, the 150,000 provisional votes would become meaningful. It is
interesting, in this regard, that people who are looking closely at the
numbers are beginning to report that the exit polls are substantially
inaccurate only in areas that used black box voting machines,

The implications are bigger than Ohio. If one extrapolates this forward
to 3000 electronic voting machines, there may be 9 to 12 million
fraudulent votes. Bottom line, it is possible that Bush didn't win
either the electoral vote or the popular vote. As this point we won't
know without a full investigation.

Black box voting has asked people who think such investigation should
happen to fax Ralph Nader at 202-265-0092 and ask him to challenge the
election results in New Hampshire. This request was broadcast on the
Randi Rhodes radio show and can be found at her web site:
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/main.html.
<http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/main.html>


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