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[MEA]election (fwd)
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 19:35:09 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: chodge5 () utk edu Date: November 5, 2004 7:06:57 PM EST To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Re: [MEA]election (fwd) This information was posted to the Media Ecology list and might be of interest to IP. I've deleted all the personal info re: the original poster. --------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll avoid emotion on this one and simply point to growing evidence of major problems with electronic voting machines This storyhttp://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041105/ap_on_el_pr/ voting_problems
from AP via Yahoo, reports that Bush got 3893 extra votes on a single Ohio voting machine. Other sites, including http://blackboxvoter.org and http://blackboxvoter.com (two different organizations) are reporting other descrepencies. One of these organizations, black box voter dot org (http://blackboxvoter.org) is attempting to investigate these reports and is apparently filing a freedom of information request for the black boxes on over 3000 voting machines. Of course evidence is worth nothing if you don't have a way to open the election to a recount, and there are now reports that Ralph Nader may be willing to mount such a challenge, opening the door to rechecking results in as many as 34 states. Before you dismiss this as meaningless, note that the difference in Ohio is currently 130,000 votes. If the one machine that we have a report on is extrapolated to other machines (and that may or may not be a reasonable thing to do), Bush would get that many votes from only 34 machines. The issue may or may not be fraud, but if it is, there are many more than 34 electronic voting machines in Ohio and Florida. Indeed, the many electronic voting machines in Ohio would allow much smaller numbers to do the job. Indeed, if there was only half that much fraud, the 150,000 provisional votes would become meaningful. It is interesting, in this regard, that people who are looking closely at the numbers are beginning to report that the exit polls are substantially inaccurate only in areas that used black box voting machines, The implications are bigger than Ohio. If one extrapolates this forward to 3000 electronic voting machines, there may be 9 to 12 million fraudulent votes. Bottom line, it is possible that Bush didn't win either the electoral vote or the popular vote. As this point we won't know without a full investigation. Black box voting has asked people who think such investigation should happen to fax Ralph Nader at 202-265-0092 and ask him to challenge the election results in New Hampshire. This request was broadcast on the Randi Rhodes radio show and can be found at her web site: http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/main.html. <http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/main.html> ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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