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Loki¹s Map Leads MPAA on Road to Nowhere


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:30:32 -0500


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From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:00:14 -0800
To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Loki¹s Map Leads MPAA on Road to Nowhere

[Note:  This item comes from reader Scott Berry.  DLH]

From: Scott Berry <sjb () optonline net>
Date: February 17, 2005 2:48:46 PM PST
To: 'Dewayne Hendricks' <dewayne () warpspeed com>
Subject: Re Lokitorrent

Dewayne,

Not sure if you saw this, but some of your blog readers might be
interestedŠ

   Scott

<http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=665>

 

Loki¹s  Map Leads MPAA on Road to Nowhere
February 12, 2005
Michael Ingram

³By  Court Order [Edward Webber, former LokiTorrent owner] must
provide the MPAA  with access to and copies of all logs and server
data related to his illegal BitTorrent activities, which will provide
a roadmap to others who have used LokiTorrent to engage in illegal
activities.²

The MPAA¹s press release is chilling. Not only has the money donated
to the legal defence fund disappeared into a black hole, but all
former registered users of LokiTorrent are placed at risk of future
lawsuits.

However, registered users will be relieved to hear that very little,
if any, useful information will end up in the hands of the MPAA.

³They don't have anything, they have air,² an ex-torrent site owner
told Slyck. He chose to remain anonymous. For arguments sake, we will
call him Paul.

Paul also ran a Torrent site based on the same scripts and source used
by LokiTorrent. They conferred regularly.

Referring to the website logs:

³Those access logs have no value it all. They only display whether you
downloaded the .torrent file, not if you actually downloaded the
content using that Torrent,² Paul explained to Slyck.

The Torrent file is merely a key; the MPAA can not prove that it was
used in any locks.

Paul went on, ³We both didn't log [seed and leech] information because
first it would allow us to know too much about the people using the
network and what they were sharing. 2nd it would require huge
resources to keep track of all that. That's the tracker's job.²

At best, the information could be used in conjunction with other
research to target ³serial uploaders². Much like the RIAA target those
who share more than a set number of music tracks, the MPAA can now
target those who have a history of trading Torrent files, although
such a system would rely on static IP addresses.

But Paul does not believe that there will be enough information even
for this.

³Logs files tend to grow at a rate of 1GB per day on this kind of
site. Most site owners Š either disable logging or purge the logs
every few days. So there's little to no information for them,² he
explained. ³Perhaps Loki [Webber¹s alias] even disabled his logging
completely recently because of the large influx of new users.²

LokiTorrent did kept track of which Torrents each user had uploaded,
but the information was stored in the database by username, rather
than IP address.

The MPAA will find even less information in the logs for the trackers,
which were also run by LokiTorrent. Unlike the website, the trackers
do know who is uploading and downloading the actual files.

³Me and Loki both used XBTT as our tracker software. For a fact, XBTT
is volatile, meaning that if you shut it down the active user list is
immediately purged from memory and is NOT stored on disk,² Paul
explained.

³The only thing they do know is who uploaded a torrent, but uploading
and seeding is completely different. Even then, that information is
only available for a few days [at most],² he concluded.

The MPAA would be able to gather more usage statistics and IP
addresses by monitoring public trackers themselves. The announcement
that they have acquired a roadmap to those behind file sharing appears
to be nothing short of a scare tactic.

Paul also had a few words in defense of Webber, who has been accused
of selling out those who donated to his legal defense fund, only to
settle out of court.

³People should not think he ran with the money because he lost.
Victory is not the only outcome of a costly lawsuit,² he said. ³The
gag order is the weirdest thing, it seems that it's purely there to
prevent him from telling the truth.²

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