ANY EXPLAINATIONS? MORE ON Google feature on today's Public Radio "Marketplace" program

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Tom in Bangkok <thomyates () gmail com>
Date: June 11, 2005 10:09:28 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: Ip ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] MORE ON Google feature on today's Public Radio  
"Marketplace" program
Reply-To: Tom in Bangkok <thomyates () gmail com>


This was strange, I have my articles from IP coming into my gmail,  
and they go straight to my IP label folder.  This one went straight  
to my Spam folder, the  only IP article to do so yet....hmmmmm

On 6/12/05, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:

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From: Ronda Hauben < ronda () panix com>
Date: June 11, 2005 12:49:55 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Cc: Ronda Hauben <ronda () panix com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Google feature on today's Public Radio
"Marketplace" program



Dave - For IP -

Lauren wrote:

>
> A short feature on today's "Marketplace" -- broadcast widely on  
public
> radio -- discusses concerns over Google's handling of the Usenet
> archives and other matters regarding Google operations.
>
> It can be played via:
>
> http://marketplace.publicradio.org/shows/2005/06/10/PM200506102.html
>
>

On the program they made the statement that google owns the copyright
to all our Usenet posts. This is a serious misrepresentation of the
copyright law.

Under the Berne Convention which the US signed in 1989, the creator
of a work owns the copyright. Google does not own it.

Google should be indicating that they respect this with the Usenet
archive posts. They don't. Instead they put a (c) Google 2005 after
the post.  They do *not* own our Usenet posts. For them to claim
they do is irresponsible and a violation of the copyright of those
who have written the posts.

I tried to comment in the marketplace comment section but don't know
if this will actually get to them.

For more background on this see:

              Culture Clash
                   The Google Purchase of the 1995-+2001
                   Usenet Archive And the Online Community
                http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/7/7013/1.html

I have tried to bring this problem to the attention of those at
Google, but the effort has been useless.

with best wishes


Ronda

ronda () panix com

P.S. A journal article I wrote about the problems with Google is online
at http://www.columbia.edu/~rh120/other/usenetstts.pdf




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