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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:20:27 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Ari Ollikainen <Ari () OLTECO com> Date: May 11, 2005 4:27:22 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: Bob Frankston <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com>Subject: Re: [IP] REad it and prepare to stand on LONG LONG lines -- Senate Backs Measure to Tighten ID Requirements
At 3:17 PM -0400 5/11/05, David Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Frankston <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com> Date: May 11, 2005 11:08:11 AM EDT To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Senate Backs Measure to Tighten ID Requirementshttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/10/ AR2005051001403.htmlBy Darryl Fears Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, May 11, 2005; Page A14The Real ID Act, which the Senate approved yesterday, would make it more difficult for illegal immigrants to obtain identification that the federal government will recognize when they try to board an airplane, fill out tax forms or open a bank account. But the measure would affect U.S. citizens as well.Americans would need an authentic copy of their birth certificate to apply for a new driver's license or renew an old one. The certificates must be verified at the counter by a Department of Motor Vehicles agent, along with other identification, such as Social Security numbers and utility bills. Governors, legislatures and officials in motor vehicle departments oppose the act, saying it would lead to agonizingly long lines at DMV offices
The above is typical mis-reporting ... As an exercise in critical thinking, I suggest you attempt to discover ANY terminology from the REAL-ID act (HR.418) which equates to "authentic copy of their birth certificate" for driver's license renewal [ see 202(c) et al]: [extracted fromhttp://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c109:3:./temp/ ~c1097AwhGk:e46432: ]
[...] SEC. 202. MINIMUM DOCUMENT REQUIREMENTS AND ISSUANCE STANDARDS FOR FEDERAL RECOGNITION. (a) Minimum Standards for Federal Use- (1) IN GENERAL- Beginning 3 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, a Federal agency may not accept, for any official purpose, a driver's license or identification card issued by a State to any person unless the State is meeting the requirements of this section. (2) STATE CERTIFICATIONS- The Secretary shall determine whether a State is meeting the requirements of this section based on certifications made by the State to the Secretary of Transportation. Such certifications shall be made at such times and in such manner as the Secretary of Transportation, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, may prescribe by regulation. (b) Minimum Document Requirements- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall include, at a minimum, the following information and features on each driver's license and identification card issued to a person by the State: (1) The person's full legal name. (2) The person's date of birth. (3) The person's gender. (4) The person's driver's license or identification card number. (5) A digital photograph of the person. (6) The person's address of principle [ hopefully corrected soon ] residence. (7) The person's signature. (8) Physical security features designed to prevent tampering, counterfeiting, or duplication of the document for fraudulent purposes.(9) A common machine-readable technology, with defined minimum data elements.
(c) Minimum Issuance Standards- (1) IN GENERAL- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall require, at a minimum, presentation and verification of the following information before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person: (A) A photo identity document, except that a non-photo identity document is acceptable if it includes both the person's full legal name and date of birth. (B) Documentation showing the person's date of birth. (C) Proof of the person's social security account number or verification that the person is not eligible for a social security account number.(D) Documentation showing the person's name and address of principal residence.
(2) SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS- (A) IN GENERAL- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall comply with the minimum standards of this paragraph. (B) EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL STATUS- A State shall require, before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person, valid documentary evidence that the person-- (i) is a citizen of the United States; (ii) is an alien lawfully admitted for permanent or temporary residence in the United States; (iii) has conditional permanent resident status in the United States; (iv) has an approved application for asylum in the United States or has entered into the United States in refugee status; (v) has a valid, unexpired nonimmigrant visa or nonimmigrant visa status for entry into the United States; (vi) has a pending application for asylum in the United States; (vii) has a pending or approved application for temporary protected status in the United States; (viii) has approved deferred action status; or (ix) has a pending application for adjustment of status to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States or conditional permanent resident status in the United States. (C) TEMPORARY DRIVERS' LICENSES AND IDENTIFICATION CARDS- (i) IN GENERAL- If a person presents evidence under any of clauses (v) through (ix) of subparagraph (B), the State may only issue a temporary driver's license or temporary identification card to the person. (ii) EXPIRATION DATE- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall be valid only during the period of time of the applicant's authorized stay in the United States or, if there is no definite end to the period of authorized stay, a period of one year. (iii) DISPLAY OF EXPIRATION DATE- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall clearly indicate that it is temporary and shall state the date on which it expires. (iv) RENEWAL- A temporary driver's license or temporary identification card issued pursuant to this subparagraph may be renewed only upon presentation of valid documentary evidence that the status by which the applicant qualified for the temporary driver's license or temporary identification card has been extended by the Secretary of Homeland Security. (3) VERIFICATION OF DOCUMENTS- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall implement the following procedures: (A) Before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person, the State shall verify, with the issuing agency, the issuance, validity, and completeness of each document required to be presented by the person under paragraph (1) or (2). (B) The State shall not accept any foreign document, other than an official passport, to satisfy a requirement of paragraph (1) or (2). (C) Not later than September 11, 2005, the State shall enter into a memorandum of understanding with the Secretary of Homeland Security to routinely utilize the automated system known as Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements, as provided for by section 404 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (110 Stat. 3009-664), to verify the legal presence status of a person, other than a United States citizen, applying for a driver's license or identification card. (d) Other Requirements- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall adopt the following practices in the issuance of drivers' licenses and identification cards: (1) Employ technology to capture digital images of identity source documents so that the images can be retained in electronic storage in a transferable format. (2) Retain paper copies of source documents for a minimum of 7 years or images of source documents presented for a minimum of 10 years. (3) Subject each person applying for a driver's license or identification card to mandatory facial image capture. (4) Establish an effective procedure to confirm or verify a renewing applicant's information. (5) Confirm with the Social Security Administration a social security account number presented by a person using the full social security account number. In the event that a social security account number is already registered to or associated with another person to which any State has issued a driver's license or identification card, the State shall resolve the discrepancy and take appropriate action. (6) Refuse to issue a driver's license or identification card to a person holding a driver's license issued by another State without confirmation that the person is terminating or has terminated the driver's license. (7) Ensure the physical security of locations where drivers' licenses and identification cards are produced and the security of document materials and papers from which drivers' licenses and identification cards are produced. (8) Subject all persons authorized to manufacture or produce drivers' licenses and identification cards to appropriate security clearance requirements. (9) Establish fraudulent document recognition training programs for appropriate employees engaged in the issuance of drivers' licenses and identification cards. (10) Limit the period of validity of all driver's licenses and identification cards that are not temporary to a period that does not exceed 8 years. 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