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more on Chinese hackers


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:47:27 -0500



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Subject:        Re: [IP] more on Chinese hackers]
Date:   Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:35:59 -0500 (EST)
From:   EEkid () aol com
To:     dave () farber net



Mr. Farber,

I work for the DOD and nmapping by employees happens fairly often. To my knowledge, I'm not aware of anyone receiving a phone call or an email, much less armed encounters. : )

Depending on where a person works, there is a DOD "NETWORK SECURITY STAND-DOWN" either approaching or it has already passed.
http://www.usmc.mil/maradmins/maradmin2000.nsf/0/6a9ba6bbe69dac91852570ba0080ccc9?OpenDocument


https://infosec.navy.mil/ps/?t=main/main.tag&bc=main/bc_main.html <https://infosec.navy.mil/ps/?t=main/main.tag&bc=main/bc_main.html>

Note the INFOCON level of Alpha.


Jerry



In a message dated 11/25/2005 3:06:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dave () farber net writes:

    > Titan Rain first came to public attention this summer, when the
   Washington
    > Post reported that websites in China were being used to target
   computer
    > networks in the Defense Department and other US agencies.
    >
    > Time later reported that Titan Rain had been counter-hacked by a US
    > security expert called Shawn Carpenter.
    >
    > The attacks, which are ongoing, were particularly effective on
   the night
    > of 1 November, 2004, said Paller, who outlined how the hackers first
    > scanned then broke into US government computers.

   A longtime equaintance of mine was NetAdmin for the
   not-secret-but-not-officially-acknowledged DEA/DOD radar network which
   tries to spot the non-CIA drug planes hauling white powder north from
   South America.  (He's retired now, and the radar installation wasn't
   classified, so it's okay for him to tell me).

   Anyway - some new guy was brought in and made himself at home. One
   night, with nothing better to do, he did a port scan on 192.168.x.x

   About fifteen minutes later the door was kicked in and six guys with
   pistols drawn came in and jacked the newbie up against the wall, to ask
   just what the hell he thought he was doing. Apparently his explanation
   satisfied them, because he wasn't hauled off in handcuffs.

   It's not wise to nmap the DOD ...



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