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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 22:03:29 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501 () bobf frankston com> Date: October 8, 2005 12:04:30 PM EDT To: dave () farber net, 'Ip Ip' <ip () v2 listbox com> Cc: 'Declan McCullagh' <declan () well com>Subject: RE: Progress and Freedom Foundation: Leave DMCA alone, don't permit circumvention! [ip] {v2}
Years ago at an Upside Magazine event in DC I asked Boucher about Moore’s law because of the obvious impact on technology and legislation. He didn’t have the concept. Over time over I’ve spoken to a number of well meaning public servants and it’s been discouraging. It’s not that the people are trying to do harm, but they go for stories that make the most sense to them – facts only confuse.
I recently posted an essay on Kodak's WiFi Camera http:// www.frankston.com/?name=SATNEasyShare -- it turns out that you have to pay Kodak extra if you actually want to get the bits that represent the pictures. The more pictures the more it costs per picture!
What I found most disturbing is how little protest there is to the lack of ownership or control -- the kids today are so depressing well- behaved. Of course they've always been.
I can foresee the next generation of DMCA focused used by schools. They lease the knowledge but never sell it. These schools will have very attractive tuition plans -- you just assign 10% of your future income streams and guarantee not to pass on any learning to others.
Unauthorized sell of teaching materials will be considered attempts to circumvent. But so is telling people that holding the shift key down will prevent automatically running the protection software on a PC
-----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 06:26 To: Ip IpSubject: Progress and Freedom Foundation: Leave DMCA alone, don't permit circumvention! [ip]
Begin forwarded message: From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com> Date: October 6, 2005 3:10:55 PM EDT To: politech () politechbot com Subject: [Politech] Progress and Freedom Foundation: Leave DMCA alone, don't permit circumvention! [ip] In Patrick Ross' commentary below, TPM=technical protection measures, aka anti-copying mechanisms. I think Ross is misguided, irresponsibly overstates the alleged harm of permitting circumvention for fair use, and ignores the documented problems caused by the DMCA. A more rigorous free-market approach is here: http://www.politechbot.com/2005/06/13/new-article-on/ But nevertheless, the Progress and Freedom Foundation is an influential think tank with many fans among Republicans on Capitol Hill. (PFF recently hired Michael Powell's legal advisor, for instance, and its board is primarily former Reagan administration officials.) No wonder DMCA reform is going nowhere. -Declan --- http://news.com.com/2010-1025_3-5889596.html Here's a surefire way to stifle innovation By Patrick Ross Published: October 6, 2005, 4:00 AM PDT ...A well-meaning U.S. Congressman, Rick Boucher of Virginia, is the author of the legislation in question. He first tried to make circumvention of copy-protection mechanisms legal back in 1998, when Congress was debating the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. His effort to amend the bill failed. Since then, he has been continuing his crusade through standalone bills; his version in this Congress is HR-1201. Boucher claims that digital rights management (DRM) on DVDs, CDs and other mediums can stifle fair use. The U.S. Copyright Office largely has disagreed in DMCA review proceedings, but Boucher nonetheless persists... But if HR-1201 becomes law, every consumer could legally hack any TPM by claiming fair use, and as fair use isn't codified, there would be as many definitions of it as there are consumers. Consumers would be legally sanctioned to break their contracts with the content provider. No sane business operator enters a contract in which one party has the right to disregard its terms at will, but that's what HR-1201 permits. That hated TPM would disappear from the market, as there's no reason to employ a lock if everyone has a legal right to the key. But as TPM leaves, so do the digital offerings that come with it... _______________________________________________ Politech mailing list Archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Moderated by Declan McCullagh (http://www.mccullagh.org/) ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as BobIP () Bobf Frankston com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ipArchives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/
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