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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:59:39 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Krulwich <krulwich () yahoo com> Date: September 13, 2005 5:46:49 AM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Realities of Skype and eBay Reply-To: krulwich () yahoo com Dave,If people are concerned about privacy and security, why is everone concerned only about big companies? Why is Skype owned by eBay more of a concern than Skype beforehand? Analogously, why is everyone anti AIM but not other smaller
instant messagers that use their own protocols?I can understand concern about big companies, and I can understand concerns about privacy, but let's be honest about what we're concerned about. Let's also be sure not to consider people suspect just because they're successful.
--Bruce --- David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: September 12, 2005 7:09:45 PM EDT To: marcaniballi () hotmail com, richard () shockey us Cc: dave () farber net, lauren () vortex com Subject: Realities of Skype and eBay I am on record as stating -- most recently right here in IP -- that I consider proprietary VoIP systems to be unacceptable on security and privacy grounds. However, given that many people *are* going to keep using Skype, particularly after it becomes intertwined with eBay, I feel that it is incumbent on us to take whatever steps are possible to try encourage reasonable disclosure regarding these commercial systems -- that *will* be widely used. The reality is that government-mandated backdoors will likely be implemented in all commercial VoIP systems, period. However, at this stage, there are millions of people using Skype based merely on the "faith" that it is reasonably secure. That's bad science across the board. In the real world, those of us "in the know" are not the people I'm most concerned about. It's the folks who do not have technical backgrounds who are most dependent on us to try keep the commercial operations as honest as possible in a very difficult political environment. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () pfir org or lauren () vortex com or lauren () eepi org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, EEPI - Electronic Entertainment Policy Initiative - http://www.eepi.org Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as krulwich () yahoo com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ipArchives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/
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