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Verizon to Police Web Customers To Protect Disney From Piracy -- a response from Dan Bricklin
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 07:24:18 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501 () bobf frankston com> Date: September 24, 2005 10:26:39 PM EDT To: dave () farber netCc: Dan Bricklin <Dan () Bricklin com>, 'Dewayne Hendricks' <dewayne () warpspeed com> Subject: RE: [IP] Verizon to Police Web Customers To Protect Disney From Piracy -- a response from Dan Bricklin
I believe that Verizon is not spying on customers and not looking atpackets. What they agreed to do is forward emails from Disney addressed to
some type of ID (I assume IP address, reverse DNS, or something) withoutletting Disney know the email address to which they send the emails. See:
http://investor.verizon.com/news/view.aspx?NewsID=672 Disney is the one who is alleging (and tracking) that a particular IPaddress (or whatever) is "engaged in unauthorized distribution". I assume
this is something like making that material available on some sharingnetwork of some sort and any third party can find out that information -- you don't need to be the carrier. If you think the notices you receive are
in error, then you can tell Verizon. If you are distributing copyrightmaterial in an illegal manner, you are in violation of the Verizon terms of
service (and copyright law). Verizon has been putting money into defending attempts to get to their customers, so be careful about knocking them here by misunderstanding exactly what they are doing. We need to find out more (I'm sure it will come out at some point) and not jump to conclusions. What exactly are in these emails and how is Verizon involved in the response? -DanB ==============I thank Dan for toning down the discussion but I can't help but notice that it is in return for getting Disney content and while that may be considered normal bargaining it makes it clear that there is a corrupting element to
these deals. -----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 18:04 To: Ip IpSubject: [IP] Verizon to Police Web Customers To Protect Disney From Piracy
Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501 () bobf frankston com> Date: September 24, 2005 12:40:56 PM EDT To: dave () farber net, 'Ip Ip' <ip () v2 listbox com> Cc: Hiawatha Bray <h_bray () globe com>, 'Drew Clark' <drewclark () gmail com>, 'Dewayne Hendricks' <dewayne () warpspeed com> Subject: RE: [IP] Verizon to Police Web Customers To Protect Disney From Piracy Apologies for too many references that require some knowledge of history -- those who don't know there is a history will get a chance to learn it this time around. Drew Clark wrote about Verizon's complicity in today's National Journal http://www.njtelecomupdate.com/lenya/telco/live/tb- USVF1127346400334.html It seems to be the price Verizon is willing to pay to become a content controller. After all, the defining principle of the Internet denies them a perch to creating billable events. Remember when they fought to protect their users -- but now, as I point out, the Internet is only 1% of the FIOS capacity -- the rest is television. Of course they might also be preparing to sell to China. This is another reason for a connectivity utility -- will cities that provide broadband with TV and telephone service find themselves beholden to Disney? Will they even try to resist reporting on their friends and neighbors? It would be un-American to resist when we pray to HUAC for the blessings it deigns to sell us. I noticed the primary focus at this fall's http://www.von.com was complexity in the middle as Telcos try to create a role for themselves with "IMS" being the center piece. (What is IMS? -- anything that creates billable events in the middle of the network.) Fear-mongering is also a crucial element and I have to chide Hiawatha for his story "Net phones vulnerable to sabotage". It's fear generated by those who want to sell antidotes. The "real" phone network -- the PSTN is far more vulnerable to attack dialing and other threats. The National Journal article was accompanied by ads from the CableCos (NCTA) warning us about the attempts to force them to carry "many untried and untested broadcast channels". Twaddle of the worst kind. Putting aide what "tired and tested" content means, they can just put it all on their VOD path and program the STB to "tune" into all of this. Broadcast is a dead idea -- we have the capacity to do bidirectional individual streaming! Alas, it's too easy to give up freedom if one doesn't even realize that the restrictions are self-imposed. But lest we venture too far Mickey will be there to bring us back into line -- stay tuned for the movie version of Maus with Mickey in black strutting along as imposes order and opiates the masses. -----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 17:11 To: Ip Ip Subject: [IP] Verizon to Police Web Customers To Protect Disney From Piracy Begin forwarded message: From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com> Date: September 22, 2005 9:17:07 PM EDT To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <dewayne-net () warpspeed com> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Verizon to Police Web Customers To Protect Disney From Piracy Reply-To: dewayne () warpspeed com [Note: Hummh..., this deal brings new meaning to the term 'open access'! DLH] Verizon to Police Web Customers To Protect Disney From Piracy By DIONNE SEARCEY and MERISSA MARR Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL September 22, 2005; Page D4 Stepping up the battle against entertainment piracy, Verizon Communications Inc. and Walt Disney Co. have entered a long-term programming deal that calls for the phone company to send a warning to Internet users suspected of pirating Disney's content on its broadband services. Under the deal, one of the first of its kind in the television industry, Disney will contact Verizon when the company suspects a Verizon customer of illegally downloading content. Without divulging names or addresses to Disney, Verizon will then alert the customer that he or she might be violating the law. Disney will be able to identify suspicious customers through an Internet coding system. The provision was announced as part of a content deal that will provide Verizon with Disney and ESPN programming and broadband services. New York-based Verizon, one of several telephone carriers launching video services to compete against cable companies, also secured 12 Disney channels, including ESPN, ABC News Now and the Disney Channel for its new television service, Fios TV, which will start rolling out today in Texas. In a related development, News Corp. Chief Executive Rupert Murdoch told a Goldman Sachs investment conference yesterday that News Corp. is "99% there" in completing a content deal with Verizon. He didn't elaborate, but that deal would likely include such networks as FX and Fox News. Verizon's deal with Disney comes as content providers are looking at more ways to deliver movies and music over the Internet while protecting copyrighted material. Verizon in the past has successfully battled the music industry in court over the issue, refusing to turn over the names and addresses of customers. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act compels Internet providers to divulge customer information regarding pirating upon subpoena. Verizon insists its deal with Disney doesn't compromise any of its past court efforts. Company officials say they want to comply with the law but also must protect subscribers' privacy. "We understand that Disney has issues of copyright but for Verizon the critical issue is privacy for our customers. We're as committed to that as we ever were," said Verizon spokesman Eric Rabe. Mr. Rabe said the company could shut off service to customers who have been repeatedly warned that they are infringing on Disney copyrights. In a presentation to the Goldman Sachs conference yesterday, Disney's CEO-elect Robert Iger described the antipiracy provisions of the deal as "breakthrough" and said "the rest of the industry should pay heed and hopefully follow." 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