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more on more on more on [I agree djf] an accurate description of this behavior is unprintable in polite company
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:49:37 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Serge Egelman <serge () guanotronic com> Date: January 9, 2006 9:46:05 AM EST To: dave () farber netSubject: Re: [IP] more on more on [I agree djf] an accurate description of this behavior is unprintable in polite company
Reply-To: serge () guanotronic com For IP if you wish:I have a blackberry 7100t from T-Mobile (and am using it to send this message while at a cafe in Lisbon). This was my first complaint (crippled Bluetooth, not being at a cafe in Lisbon). I spoke with T- Mobile about it and they insisted it was all RIM's doing and they had no control over the matter (they also said that it is a common complaint). I spoke to RIM and they admitted to it and said it's for "security purposes". They hinted that this may change in the future, but who knows.
Serge Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile. Hence the typos. -----Original Message----- From: David Farber <dave () farber net> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:23:17 To:ip () v2 listbox comSubject: [IP] more on more on [I agree djf] an accurate description of this behavior is unprintable in polite company
Begin forwarded message: From: Jordan Pollack <pollack () cs brandeis edu> Date: January 8, 2006 11:33:09 PM EST To: dave () farber net, bob () frankston com Subject: Re: [IP] more on [I agree djf] an accurate description of this behavior is unprintable in polite company Its not only Microsoft. My Treo 300 simply collapsed before a trip, and I was sold a Nextel Blackberry 7100i by Sprint store. Its a nice phone, with GPS, and walkie-talkie to other Nextel's, but both the USB modem and bluetooth modem have been lobotomized so it can't work as an emergency modem like older IDEN phones or the 7100 from Tmobile or Cingular. Of course I dont know whether Nextel, RIM, Sprint, or collusion to minimize value of "unlimited" data is to blame. David Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501 () bobf frankston com> Date: January 8, 2006 6:32:07 PM EST To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox com Cc: "'Mike O'Dell'" <mo () ccr org> Subject: RE: [IP] [I agree djf] an accurate description of this behavior is unprintable in polite company Microsoft also took out the Bluetooth dialup networking protocol on the Samsung i730 and prevented playing streaming media in the browser. Streaming worked fine on the older i700 and DUN is available on the older Audivox EVDO phones (now being phased out!). I'm waiting for Opera for the PPC but maybe Verizon is refusing to allow that -- speaking to the Opera people at CES they mumbled something about needing Verizon approval. Once again, welcome to the Sicilian economy. It's bad enough that these companies only exist thanks to the protection of the FCC, as part of the deal they must prevent users from creating value that does not produce billable events. I describe it as making sacrifices to the God ARPU (Average Return per User). It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't do so much economic damage and didn't create security problems. It's as if we subsidized small towns by requiring all interstate highways install red lights and only allow you to pass after you make a local purchase in each town. Good thing there are third party patches available to get around the DUN problem. Too bad Bluetooth makes it so difficult to add your own profiles. I can buy a Bluetooth headset but can't add the profile to my laptop. While that not the same thing as removing the capability it does demonstrate why Bluetooth fits so well into the carrier model of enfeebling the edge. -----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 17:50 To: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: [IP] [I agree djf] an accurate description of this behavior is unprintable in polite company Begin forwarded message: From: "Mike O'Dell" <mo () ccr org> Date: January 8, 2006 5:46:33 PM EST To: dave () farber net Subject: an accurate description of this behavior is unprintable in polite company http://engadget.com/2006/01/07/microsoft-blocking-mp3s-on-verizon- wireless-phones/ ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as BobIP () Bobf Frankston com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/ interesting- people/ ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as pollack () cs brandeis edu To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/
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