Interesting People mailing list archives

more on Remember this? Homeland "Security" contract for concentration camps in the USA


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 17:33:39 -0400



Begin forwarded message:

From: Justin Rood <justin () talkingpointsmemo com>
Date: May 13, 2006 10:44:18 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: RE: [IP] Remember this? Homeland "Security" contract for concentration camps in the USA
Reply-To: justin () talkingpointsmemo com

Dave,

Just a quick note -- I have a bit of familiarity with this issue from having covered it for Congressional Quarterly and Government Executive magazine.

The detention facilities are to hold illegals (for lack of a better term -- substitute your nomenclature of choice) picked up in the United States until they are processed and can be deported. Right now, DHS has a pitiful lack of beds -- they're literally apprehending illegals and they don't have the space to hold them; so they release them into the general populace on their
own recognizance.

Not surprisingly, few show up for their hearings.

Here's the relevant passage from an article I wrote last year about a DHS
Inspector General's report that touched on the subject:


"The IG report also detailed how illegal immigrants detained by [Customs and Border Patrol] were often released by [Immigration and Customs Enforcement], which runs DHS' detention facilities, because the agency does not have space
to hold them.

"The report said CBP's increased efforts to intercept aliens were not
coordinated with ICE's detention and removal operations. Due to a
combination of hiring freezes and regulatory restrictions, ICE's detention operations lost 10 percent of their bed space and 2 percent of their staff
in the past couple of years, according to the report.

"Meanwhile, CBP has apprehended more illegal aliens. In particular,
detentions of people from countries other than Mexico have increased from
slightly less than 50,000 in 2003 to more than 75,000 in 2004, and have
continued to skyrocket in 2005.

"The result has been "the release of increased numbers of apprehended aliens
into the community," the report stated. Border Patrol officers are
frustrated that ICE releases people from "special interest" countries--a
term for nations that "present a potential terrorist threat to national
security." The report estimated that ICE releases one in every five aliens from special interest countries that were apprehended by the Border Patrol.

"Without the support of increased transportation, detention space, and
detention and removal staff, increases in apprehensions make little sense,"
the report concluded."

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0905/092705jr1.htm

How Halliburton got the contract, whether there are secret plans to convert these new facilities into concentration camps, etc. - I can't speak to. But if your enforcement policy is to catch and deport illegal aliens, it's silly to spend millions apprehending them only to release them into the populace
for lack of facilities.

Justin Rood
Washington, DC

-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:45 AM
To: ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: [IP] Remember this? Homeland "Security" contract for concentration
camps in the USA



Begin forwarded message:

From: "Jon O." <jono () networkcommand com>
Date: May 12, 2006 10:21:03 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Remember this? Homeland "Security" contract for
concentration camps in the USA


Dave:

Back around Feb 22 this year, there was a story posted about
KBR being awarded a contract to setup "Immigration and Customs
Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency"

http://lists.elistx.com/archives/interesting-people/200602/msg00240.html

During that time, many people theorized on what these "camps"
would be used for, the purpose of the contract, etc. As you
may recall, there was no talk then of the immigration issues
that have come up in the past couple weeks, only mention of:

        ...establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities
        to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations
        Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of
        immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development
        of new programs, KBR said.

I guess we know now these this wasn't a risk of influx to the
USA, but rather the "new programs" KBR mentioned (assuming the
dollar doesn't continue it's downward trend).

Looks like these new camps are going to be filled in part like
this:

Bush Weighs Deploying Guard to U.S. Border

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/05/12/195467-bush-weighs-deploying-
guard-to-us-border

President Bush, trying to build momentum for an overhaul of the
nation's immigration laws, is considering plans to shore up the
Mexican border with National Guard troops paid for by the federal
government, according to senior administration officials.




-------------------------------------
You are subscribed as justin () talkingpointsmemo com
To manage your subscription, go to
  http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip

Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/



-------------------------------------
You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org
To manage your subscription, go to
 http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip

Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/


Current thread: