more on WORTH READING more on All hail the new iPhone - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Matt Grommes <matt () mattorama net>
Date: January 12, 2007 8:09:38 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: Re: [IP] WORTH READING more on All hail the new iPhone -  
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

For IP if you'd like:

One of the big things Apple gets from the Cingular deal is that  
Cingular agreed to make changes to their internal systems to make  
certain features of the iPhone work. The visual voicemail thing  
required changes to the voicemail system to allow non-sequential  
access to your messages. I'm sure other features (maybe sending  
emails while talking) required the carrier to make changes to do  
things "the Apple way" as well. Success with these new features might  
make it easier to get the other carriers to make changes once the  
Cingular exclusive is up. If they had just said 'Damn the torpedos'  
and made a carrier-neutral phone they would have had to do voicemail,  
email, and everything else in the lowest common denominator way to  
make it all work.

Based on things like the visual voicemail, I think we'll see once the  
phone comes out that it's more than just eye candy.


David Farber wrote:
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "William S. Duncanson" <caesar () starkreality com>
> Date: January 12, 2007 7:06:30 PM EST
> To: dave () farber net
> Subject: RE: [IP] more on All hail the new iPhone - Pittsburgh  
> Tribune-Review
>
> My guess is that the subsidy to get the price down to $599 is  
> pretty large.
> Remember that all the prices we've seen are the 2-year-contract  
> subsidized
> prices.  Cingular probably demanded an exclusive deal in return for  
> a big
> enough subsidy to make the iPhone (I really hope Cisco wins) appear  
> even
> remotely attractive price-wise.
>
> I would guess, judging by the subsidies other phones get, that the
> unsubsidized price of the iPhone is probably well north of the  
> $1000 range.
> For a phone that is, for all practical purposes, only innovative in  
> it's
> interface.
>
> A brief list of the problems I have with it:
> Price - $600 WITH contract?!?  Oh, and don't forget that you can't  
> just buy
> phone service, you have to get a data plan too.  Figure a $50 voice  
> plan,
> plus the $20 data plan, over 24 months, and the phone winds up  
> costing you
> almost $2500.
> Technology - EDGE?  Hello?  There's this thing called 3G, and parts  
> of the
> world are already pushing to 4G!  802.11 is nice, but notice that  
> there's no
> VOIP support...
> Carrier Lock (Apple/Cingular are already calling the people who  
> will unlock
> their phones "bad guys."  Even though the LoC appears to disagree,  
> with
> their recent DMCA exemption for unlocking cell phones..)  Want to  
> use your
> phone in Europe or Asia?  Tough.  Cingular states quite clearly one  
> their
> support pages that they will not unlock a phone.  To "protect customer
> security" of course.
> No 3rd party apps (This is huge.  There's a huge market for 3rd  
> party apps
> for Palm, Windows Mobile, and Symbian devices, that allow you to  
> increase
> your phone's functionality virtually infinitely.  Apple is having  
> none of
> this, claiming they "have to protect the network from the phone.")
>
> Apple had the chance to knock some sense into the cell phone  
> companies by
> providing an unlocked, uncrippled, open platform with cutting edge
> technologies.  Instead, they crawled into bed with Cingular, and  
> delivered a
> device that is overpriced, intentionally crippled, and technologically
> inferior to products already on the market.  Sure, it's got a pretty
> interface, and the orientation sensor/touch screen thingy are nice,  
> but
> they're nothing more than eye candy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 15:33
> To: ip () v2 listbox com
> Subject: re: [IP] more on All hail the new iPhone - Pittsburgh
> Tribune-Review
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>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
> Date: January 12, 2007 4:00:52 PM EST
> To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] re: [IP] more on All hail the new iPhone -  
> Pittsburgh
> Tribune-Review
> Reply-To: dewayne () warpspeed com
>
> [Note:  This comment comes from reader Thomas Leavitt.  DLH]
>
> From: Thomas Leavitt <thomas () thomasleavitt org>
> Date: January 11, 2007 9:40:44 PM PST
> To: dewayne () warpspeed com
> Subject: Re: [Dewayne-Net] [IP] more on   All hail the new iPhone -
> Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
>
> I'm utterly baffled as to why Steve Jobs would tie the success of  
> the launch
> of this product to a single vendor... unless follow on phones might be
> released in editions exclusive to other providers, or other  
> versions of the
> product might be available on multiple platforms. In fact, if it is  
> his
> attention to capture 1% of the WORLD cellphone market, that seems  
> almost
> mandatory...
>
>
>
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