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Re: Google vs. Michael Moore's "Sicko"?
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:04:36 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: jim.morris () west cmu edu Date: July 1, 2007 8:44:27 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Google vs. Michael Moore's "Sicko"?I'm surprised at the media backlash against Sicko, too. It was initially greeted with a generally positive response along with stories that he had become a gentler documentary producer. The positive spin certianly came came from Moore and Miramax; and one would expect the negative is from his targets who certainly have the resources. Can anyone trace the origins of the memes that bombard us?
On 7/1/07, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Anthony Watson <anthony () neo-liberalism org> Date: July 1, 2007 7:05:35 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: lauren () vortex com Subject: RE: [IP] Google vs. Michael Moore's "Sicko"? Here I was asking myself this morning why Kurt Loder's MTV.com article attacking Moore as a money-hungry grandstander kept showing up when I brought up news.google.com . Usually those articles churn pretty thoroughly and a three-day old article is not going to get top billing in Google News, but for some reason over the last three days, every time I go to Google news, I see a link for Kurt Loder's article. Hmmmm??? What is Google up to? Perhaps we are about to see a replay of the growing money power of the hi-tech robber barons as we did in 2000, when I strongly suspect that Bill Gates threw a lot of support into the Bush campaign to prevent his company from being broken up. Google seems to be really taking a political position and may even be tailoring its news filtering to support it. However, I am a little baffled as to the nature of Google's interest in this issue. Yuck! ~aw -----Original Message----- From: David Farber (by way of Anthony Watson <Anthony.Watson () dollarsandsense com>) [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:59 PM To: anthony () neo-liberalism org Subject: [IP] Google vs. Michael Moore's "Sicko"? Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com > Date: July 1, 2007 12:38:26 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: lauren () vortex com Subject: Google vs. Michael Moore's "Sicko"? Google vs. Michael Moore's "Sicko"? http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000258.html Greetings. In a posting on the Google Health Advertising Blog ( http://google-health-ads.blogspot.com ), that can only be described as bizarre, a Google "Account Planner" has eviscerated Michael Moore's new, widely acclaimed film Sicko (see "Does negative press make you Sicko?" - http://tinyurl.com/yrc7vs ). The "cure" suggested by this Google employee for Moore's negative but generally viewed as accurate portrayal of the U.S. Health Care Industry? Spend more money on placing Google ads! Seriously, you have to read the posting yourself to appreciate it. I for one am willing to give Google the "Don't Be Evil" benefit of the doubt on this one. I'm assuming that this episode is the result of a single, uh, "overenthusiastic" employee and not a statement of broader corporate policy. But I do believe that it would be quite useful for Google to issue a formal clarification regarding this rather sicko situation ASAP -- or ideally even sooner! Bulletin! A few seconds ago while I was preparing the text above, a new posting by the author of the original anti-"Sicko" Google blog entry has appeared ( http://tinyurl.com/2ba6jq ). Personally, I don't think that it goes far enough toward clarifying this matter appropriately. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, IOIC - International Open Internet Coalition - http://www.ioic.net Founder, CIFIP- California Initiative For Internet Privacy - http:// www.cifip.org
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