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Re: Should Online Scofflaws Be Denied Web Access? - NYTimes.com
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:14:34 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: April 13, 2009 9:48:30 PM EDT To: David Farber <dave () farber net>Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Should Online Scofflaws Be Denied Web Access? - NYTimes.com
Dave, The entire concept of cutting people (either human type people or corporate type people) off from the Internet is already silly, and soon will be utterly ludicrous. But politicians (and perhaps some in the judiciary) trying to score political points either haven't figured this out yet -- or are deep in denial. The Internet is rapidly becoming absolutely essential for all manner of daily life outside of the most underdeveloped of areas, and not having Internet access for commerce, for interaction with government agencies, and for the obtaining of basic information will soon be a completely impractical burden. This will hold true for big companies, private citizens, and yes -- even for paroled criminals and the sex offenders that some judges try to ban from touching the Net. Like water, power, and basic voice phone service -- all essentials of life in our modern society that we don't deny anyone based on previous crimes -- Internet access is rapidly reaching the state of being a fundamental and necessary right, not a toy or luxury that can be reasonably withheld, particularly not at the whim of intellectual property holders! --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, GCTIP - Global Coalition for Transparent Internet Performance - http://www.gctip.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com Twitter: LW1 - - - On 04/13 20:35, David Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: Karl Auerbach <karl () cavebear com> Date: April 13, 2009 6:40:16 PM EDT To: dpreed () reed com Cc: dave () farber netSubject: Re: [IP] Re: Should Online Scofflaws Be Denied Web Access? -NYTimes.com David Farber wrote:From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com> Date: April 13, 2009 4:08:47 PM EDTSubject: Re: [IP] Should Online Scofflaws Be Denied Web Access? - NYTimes.com ... "commit crime on net, disconnect from net"Thinking of other unintended consequences: Corporate entities have, as Imentioned a few weeks back, roughly the same rights and privileges as natural people. One would hope, therefore, that the ax of these draconian laws would fall equally on corporate entities as they would on natural people.Thus, for example, if a corporation were to be found to have engaged in the same kind of behaviour as would ban a person from the net that thatcorporation would itself be banned from the net. Thus equal treatment for equal violations would require that if were Google to be found to be in copyright violation 3 times it would, as a corporation, be banned from being on the internet. Same for Time Warner, Sony, Comcast, etc.Perhaps the realization that corporate entities could be banned from thenet might induce some sanity. --karl-- ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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