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approve;0911 re Verizon FiOS to police off-topic postings?
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:01:46 -0500
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From: Edward Vielmetti <edward.vielmetti () gmail com> Date: December 1, 2009 5:57:23 PM EST To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Fwd: [IP] Verizon FiOS to police off-topic postings?
woops sent too early. anyway the TOS before includes this gem"The license shall include, without limitation, the irrevocable right to reproduce, prepare derivative works, combine with other works, alter, translate, distribute copies, display, perform, license the Materials, and all rights therein, in the name of Verizon, or its designees throughout the universe in perpetuity in any and all media now or hereafter known."but is otherwise ordinary and includes this off-topic referenceDiscussions that veer off topic, are unrelated to resolving the issue at hand, or abuse any company or product.---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Edward Vielmetti <edward.vielmetti () gmail com> Date: Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Verizon FiOS to police off-topic postings? To: dave () farber net Dave - If it's possible for this to make sense, it could make sense in the context of Verizon's own message boards; http://forums.verizon.com/ which has terms of service http://forums.verizon.com/t5/Terms-of-Service-and-User/Verizon-Community-Terms-of-Service/td-p/2 which at a glance look On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> wrote: If this is accurate, it is outragious. djf Begin forwarded message:From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: December 1, 2009 3:34:38 PM EST To: nnsquad () nnsquad org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Verizon FiOS to police off-topic postings?Verizon FiOS to police off-topic postings?Slashdot notes an "interesting" (indeed!) change made yesterday to theFiOS Acceptable Use Policy, prohibiting "post[ing] off-topicinformation on message boards, chat rooms or social networking sites."Say what? Is this a case of a Verizon lawyer with too much time on his or her hands? Or does Verizon now intend to police, prosecute, terminate, or otherwise flog and punish users for "irrelevance" in postings that users make on sites completely unaffiliated with Verizon?Verizon appears to have elevated simple "off-topic" postings (whateverthat really means!) to the same level as DDoS attacks, Trojans, spam, and libel. Exactly who is going to determine which "offenders" rise to a level suitable for Verizon to slam down the AUP hammer? Or maybe it's really an excuse to provide a new conduit for providing users' IPaddress information to sites that are upset about particular postings?ISPs should be delivering bits, not playing "off-topic" content cop enforcers. http://bit.ly/6LScLw (Slashdot) --Lauren-- NNSquad ModeratorArchives -- Edward Vielmetti Ann Arbor, MI 48104 Google Voice: +1 734 330 2465 Web: http://vielmetti.typepad.com -- Edward Vielmetti Ann Arbor, MI 48104 Google Voice: +1 734 330 2465 Web: http://vielmetti.typepad.com
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