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Re: Vanish: Self-destructing digital data


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:27:21 -0400



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From: "STEWART, WILLIAM C (BILL), ATTSI" <billstewart () att com>
Date: July 23, 2009 9:10:50 PM EDT
To: <dave () farber net>, "ip" <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: Vanish:  Self-destructing digital data

Maclen Marvit from Disappearing Inc. <http://www.disappearingink.com/> spoke at a Cypherpunks meeting back in 1999. There'd been a bit of press about them in the previous weeks, so there was some skepticism about it, but he started by making it very clear what problems he was trying to solve and what problems he _wasn't_ trying to solve. Stopping people from taking screenshots etc. was on his not-trying-to-solve list, because any solution is pretty much snake oil. Keeping your company's backup email server tapes from being subpoenaed in an anti-trust case was in scope, and it looked like a reasonable solution, and any company large enough to have lawyers has document retention and destruction policies of some sort. (Keeping your company's _future_ emails from being subpoenaed if a court orders Disappearing Inc. to retain your keys isn't a
technical problem, it's a lawyer problem, so it's also hard to solve.)

Ian Goldberg's Off The Record instant-messaging application is in a similar space. If the person you're IMing wants to save or divulge your conversations or pipe his computer monitor into Tivo, it's hard to stop them, but if you want to prevent your messages from leaking if your IM server is cracked, it'll work
fine.

                Thanks; Bill Stewart

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From: Tim Pozar <pozar () lns com> wrote:
I help start up an electronic document retention company called
Disappearing Inc.  We had very good technology but it is a difficult
sell as it is an insurance policy. Many companies don't feel they need to use it until they get involved with a court case, and then it is too
late.




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