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Re: Time Warner Subscribers Ripped Off by Unannounced HD Changes
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 06:39:00 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: "Deborah Newman" <debnewman () earthlink net> Date: May 27, 2009 4:00:19 PM EDT To: <dave () farber net>Subject: RE: [IP] Time Warner Subscribers Ripped Off by Unannounced HD Changes
Dave,The email (below) about Time Warner Cable couldn't have come at a more appropriate time. I was just on the phone with them cancelling my HDxtra tier (who needs it if HDNet is going away?), and discovered a few other interesting factoids in the process.
First, I discovered that in their last software update (which causes a system reboot), they changed the default start channel to NY1. Previously when turning the television on, it would default to whatever channel I was watching last. However, by automatically starting with NY1, they increase the audience for their own channel (especially for passive viewers who don’t bother to change channels), making the viewership numbers look larger than they actually are, thereby allowing them to charge higher CPMs for NY1 advertising.
Second, I asked why I couldn’t find the new feature they’re promoting called “Start Over.” Turns out I need a new cable box to get this, which they don’t bother telling anyone. Of course, Start Over is only available on a handful of channels/programs, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who tried to follow their instructions and couldn’t figure out why it didn’t work.
Lastly (and most significantly), I discovered that Time Warner Cable has been erroneously charging me $11.95 per month for their standard DTV service, which is I discovered is already included in the “Bulk Service Charge” that was negotiated by my building some time ago. This has been going on for years, and they’ve been getting away with it unchallenged. I have demanded a retroactive refund, and it will be interesting to see if they comply.
As I’m sure you are aware, the Court of Appeals in Washington recently upheld an FCC ruling saying that cable companies cannot use exclusive contracts to block competitors from offering service in apartment buildings and condominiums. I can’t wait for Verizon to begin offering FiOS on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.
Deborah Newman, Esq. Digital Music Specialist New York, NY debnewman () earthlink net -----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:56 PM To: ipSubject: [IP] Time Warner Subscribers Ripped Off by Unannounced HD Changes
Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: May 27, 2009 1:37:19 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: Time Warner Subscribers Ripped Off by Unannounced HD Changes Time Warner Subscribers Ripped Off by Unannounced HD Changes http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000575.html Greetings. Truth be told, there are certain technical advantages that cable has over satellite television -- true video on demand and the ability to provide Internet and phone services, for example. But like the old adage that "everyone hates the phone company" -- cable companies seem to find new ways to shoot themselves in the feet at every turn. Time Warner Cable (TWC) subscribers paying for the TWC "HD Tier" ($5 to $8.95/mo, depending on location), are in the process of being burned at this very moment, and most of them probably don't even realize it yet. The HD Tier was never a great value, usually containing only around four channels, compared to the large number of channels in most other tiers. But the presence of the HDNet Movies channel made the tier worthwhile for many subscribers. HDNet Movies is essentially the only "non-premium" movie channel that runs a great mix of high-quality HD movies (in their proper aspect ratios!), without in-movie commercials or distracting full-time ID bugs and banners. TWC is in the process of pulling HDNet Movies (and its companion channel in the tier, HDNET -- which has quite a fan following of its own) from all TWC systems. They've been doing this without any warning or announcement to subscribers, they're lying about the reason why, and if you're unhappy about the situation, they want *you* to pay. I hadn't heard about this fiasco -- not a peep from TWC -- until TiVo flashed a channel lineup change notice this morning. When I called in to find out what was going on, the TWC reps insisted that HDNET had demanded that their channels be removed from all Time Warner systems. Huh, that sounds pretty strange. "Not a contract dispute?" I asked. "Definitely not!" I was told repeatedly. Lies and double-talk. It's all about contracts and tier placement ( http://bit.ly/Dxzxn ). What's more, TWC attempting to portray the unannounced removal of HDNET channels (and their replacement with boringly generic HD commercial channels that are utterly inappropriate to an extra cost tier -- Smithsonian and MavTV) as giving subscribers "more choice" is utter hogwash. So, overnight TWC changed 50% of the channels on the HD Tier. Surprise! It's like subscribing to the L.A. Times and suddenly getting "Football Daily" delivered instead (which, given the state of the newspaper industry, may not be such a far-fetched nightmare scenario). Anyway, here comes the adding insult to injury part. If you complain about the situation, TWC will happily drop the tier from your package -- if you pay them $3! Hey, as long as we have the wound open, let's pour in some salt and give it a good rub! Now, if you raise a big enough stink and bump up to a supervisor you can probably get that fee waived. But that's not the point -- you shouldn't have to jump through hoops. TWC knew that this change was coming. They could have warned subscribers rather than trying to slip in quietly like a burglar in the dead of night. It's not really a matter of the particular channels, the cost of the tier, or the $3 drop fee -- it's the entire awful attitude of these companies in general that drive their subscribers to distraction -- and to the poor house. (Sidebar: TWC now admits that the TiVo tuning adapters required to deal with switched digital video may not be free after the first year, in direct conflict with earlier statements -- but I digress ...) Bottom line on this one, if you're paying for the HD Tier from TWC, you should probably consider dropping it like a hot potato, and refuse to pay any change fees. And watch your wallets, gang. By ... the ... way. There's a great series of DirecTV commercials portraying meetings at a generic cable company, where employees plan how best to screw their subscribers ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdR8Q6EMUbk ). In light of Time Warner Cable's behavior, I'm beginning to wonder if those spots were actually clandestinely filmed at TWC corporate headquarters ... --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, GCTIP - Global Coalition for Transparent Internet Performance - http://www.gctip.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/laurenweinstein ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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