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Cell-Phone Bills: Is Text-Messaging Too Expensive? - TIME


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:04:42 -0400





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From: Andrew C Burnette <acb () acb net>
Date: September 16, 2009 17:09:05 EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, brett () lariat net
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Cell-Phone Bills: Is Text-Messaging Too Expensive? - TIME


Dave,

For IP if you wish.

I might disagree a good bit. well, 160 bytes to be exact. SMS is
leftover space from the SS7 signaling protocol (thus the 160 character
limit when texting between carriers) that has simply been co'opted for
additional monetization. It would be today's equivalent of re-using the
exp bits in IPv6 headers for small set data.

What costs carriers "too much" are the numerous (and inefficient) T1's
required to service cell sites. As we move to 4G and fiber to the tower
(mixed up with femto's and point to point wireless between towers) the
cost should come down a good bit. Brett has the same high bandwidth cost
issues in his WISP.

The "exclusive" nature of handsets, deals, and software among each of
the US carriers is hardly economical. Buy a handset in the EU, and
you'll see the exact same handset in nearly every wireless provider's
store. Compete on services and tailored bundles, not forcing handset
manufacturers to limit their market, or design/support yet another 90%
identical handset for wireles carrier A, B and C....

It's vicious, and for lack of a better term, somewhat artificial in nature.

Best regards,
Andy Burnette

David Farber wrote:


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From: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net>
Date: September 14, 2009 11:56:54 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net, "ip" <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Cell-Phone Bills: Is Text-Messaging Too Expensive? - TIME

At 01:50 PM 9/13/2009, David Farber wrote:

Summing up, Keshav found that a text message doesn't cost providers
more than 0.3 cent."

This isn't accurate. The cost of building out, operating, and
maintaining the cellular network is tremendous (and is inflated by
problems such as overcharges by the ILECs for leased lines to connect
the towers -- also known as "special access"). What's more, due to the
advent of cut rate and unlimited calling plans (in which the carriers
actually lose money on some voice customers), this cost can't be
supported by voice service alone.

Without SMS charges, all of the major cellular carriers would lose money
unless they substantially raised rates for other services.

--Brett Glass





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