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Re d: 5, 300 Wells Fargo employees fired over 2 million phony accounts
From: "David Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 13:10:59 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Joe Crawford <joe () artlung com> Subject: Re: [IP] Re d: 5, 300 Wells Fargo employees fired over 2 million phony accounts Date: September 13, 2016 at 1:01:34 PM EDT To: dave () farber net For IP if you wish: Also apropos:"Time to unionize customer-facing bankers" https://mathbabe.org/2016/09/09/time-to-unionize-customer-facing-bankers/ <https://mathbabe.org/2016/09/09/time-to-unionize-customer-facing-bankers/> But as many have pointed out, including Naked Capitalism[1], this is really not about low-level workers. It’s about ridiculous and unattainable sales quotas imposed on bankers, and then a complete disregard for the knock-on effects of those stupid quotas. The fact that so much fraud went on so widely means that either the top dogs knew about it and didn’t care (I’m voting for this – after all the high pressure sales tactics were probably profitable overall even with this $185 fine) or that they had entirely insufficient controls and didn’t know about it. Either way they’re idiots, and it’s outrageous that only the underlings were fired, and not the management. For that matter the person who came up with rigid sales quotas without thinking for five minutes about what would happen next needs to get canned. Oh wait, I just remembered: the lowest paid bank workers, who really work for very little money[2] under tremendous pressure, have very little power. It’s time they form a union. This is not a new idea[3], but it’s never been more obvious. [1] "Wells Fargo Fined $185 Million for Opening Phony Customer Accounts, Charging Fees Without Consent; Executives Go Scot Free" -- September 9, 2016 -- http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/09/wells-fargo-fined-185-million-for-opening-phony-customer-accounts-charging-fees-without-consent-executives-go-scot-free.html <http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/09/wells-fargo-fined-185-million-for-opening-phony-customer-accounts-charging-fees-without-consent-executives-go-scot-free.html> [2] "Bank Teller Salaries" https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/bank-teller-salary-SRCH_KO0,11.htm <https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/bank-teller-salary-SRCH_KO0,11.htm> [3] "Unions Try to Get Between Banks and Their Customers -- An international labor group brings its campaign to curb sales quotas to the U.S." -- March 19, 2015 --http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-19/union-seeks-to-shield-bank-workers-from-sales-quotas <http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-19/union-seeks-to-shield-bank-workers-from-sales-quotas>
From: Dan Gillmor <dan () gillmor com <mailto:dan () gillmor com>> Date: September 13, 2016 at 11:53:54 AM EDT To: dave () farber net <mailto:dave () farber net> Subject: Re: [IP] Re d: 5, 300 Wells Fargo employees fired over 2 million phony accounts There is evidently no crime a banker can commit that is serious enough to warrant prosecution, much less jail time, if it's one of the "too big to fail" banks. Obama's legacy will include the poisonous effects of rewarding, not punishing, the criminals who looted the world for trillions and nearly crashed the global economy.
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