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Lauren's Blog: "Don't (For Now) Use Google's New 'Perspective' Comment Filtering Tool"


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:25:21 -0500




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From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
Date: February 23, 2017 at 11:57:58 AM EST
To: nnsquad () nnsquad org
Subject: [ NNSquad ] Lauren's Blog: "Don't (For Now) Use Google's New 'Perspective' Comment Filtering Tool"


Don't (For Now) Use Google's New "Perspective" Comment Filtering Tool

https://lauren.vortex.com/2017/02/23/dont-for-now-use-googles-new-perspective-comment-filtering-tool

I must be brief today, so I'll keep this relatively short and get into
details in another post. Google has announced (with considerable
fanfare) public access to their new "Perspective" comment filtering
system API, which uses Google's machine learning/AI system to
determine which comments on a site shouldn't be displayed due to
perceived high spam/toxicity scores. It's a fascinating effort. And if
you run a website that supports comments, I urge you not to put this
Google service into production, at least for now.

The bottom line is that I view Google's spam detection systems as
currently too prone to false positives -- thereby enabling a form of
algorithm-driven "censorship" (for lack of a better word in this
specific context) -- especially by "lazy" sites that might accept
Google's determinations of comment scoring as gospel.

In fact, Google's track record in this context remains problematic.

You can see this even from the examples that Google provides, where
it's obvious that any given human might easily disagree with Google's
machine-driven comment ranking decisions.

And as someone who deals with significant numbers of comments filtered
by Google every day -- I have nearly 400K followers on Google+ -- I
can tell you with considerable confidence that the problem isn't
"spam" comments that are being missed, it's completely legitimate
non-spam, nontoxic comments that are inappropriately marked as spam
and hidden by Google.

Every day, I plow through lots of these (Google makes them relatively
difficult to find and see), so that I can "resurface" completely
reasonable comments from good people who have been marked as toxic
spammers by Google spam detection false positives.

This is a bad situation, and widespread use of "Perspective" at this
stage of its development would likely spread this problem around the
world.

For in fact, much worse than letting a spam or toxic comment through,
is the AI-based muzzling of a comment and commenter who was completely
innocent and falsely condemned by the machine, where a human would not
have done so.

"Vanishing" of innocent, legit comments through overaggressive
algorithms can lead to misunderstandings, confusion, and a general
lack of trust in AI systems -- and this kind of trust failure can be
dangerous for users and the industry, since AI's potential for
greatness toward improving our world is indeed very real.

I'll have more to say about this later, but for now, while you should
of course feel free to experiment with the Google Perspective API, I
urge you not to deploy it to any running production systems at this
time.

--Lauren--
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