Re The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates

["Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>]

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> From: Patrick Sinz <patrick_sinz () yahoo com>
> Date: February 19, 2017 at 4:31:41 PM EST
> To: "dave () farber net" <dave () farber net>
> Subject: Re: [IP] The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates
> Reply-To: Patrick Sinz <patrick_sinz () yahoo com>
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> This is so nice from him, so how much taxes exactly does Microsoft pays on its income and where ?
> And how will the US government explain to their electors that the tax paying robots are not paying taxes because they
> found a low robot tax country to work in.
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> It is a case of "please tax these people" so that we do not have to speak about my taxes....
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> Fight or tax out jobs with low employer protection, and support small scale specialty producers, there are qualified 
> "blue collar" jobs, but not in large scale throw away mass consumption market....
>
>  my 2(euro)cents
>    [ps]
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> From: Dave Farber <farber () gmail com>
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> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:14 PM
> Subject: [IP] The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates
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> > From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
> > Date: February 19, 2017 at 9:17:02 AM EST
> > To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net <dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
> > Subject: [Dewayne-Net] The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates
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> > [Note:  This item comes from friend Mike Cheponis.  DLH]
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> > The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates
> > By Kevin J. Delaney
> > Feb 17 2017
> > <https://qz.com/911968/bill-gates-the-robot-that-takes-your-job-should-pay-taxes/>
> >
> > Robots are taking human jobs. But Bill Gates believes that governments should tax companies’ use of them, as a way 
> > to at least temporarily slow the spread of automation and to fund other types of employment.
> >
> > It’s a striking position from the world’s richest man and a self-described techno-optimist who co-founded Microsoft, 
> > one of the leading players in artificial-intelligence technology.
> >
> > In a recent interview with Quartz, Gates said that a robot tax could finance jobs taking care of elderly people or 
> > working with kids in schools, for which needs are unmet and to which humans are particularly well suited. He argues 
> > that governments must oversee such programs rather than relying on businesses, in order to redirect the jobs to help 
> > people with lower incomes. The idea is not totally theoretical: EU lawmakers considered a proposal to tax robot 
> > owners to pay for training for workers who lose their jobs, though on Feb. 16 the legislators ultimately rejected it.
> >
> > “You ought to be willing to raise the tax level and even slow down the speed” of automation, Gates argues. That’s 
> > because the technology and business cases for replacing humans in a wide range of jobs are arriving simultaneously, 
> > and it’s important to be able to manage that displacement. “You cross the threshold of job replacement of certain 
> > activities all sort of at once,” Gates says, citing warehouse work and driving as some of the job categories that in 
> > the next 20 years will have robots doing them.
> >
> > You can watch Gates’ remarks in the video above. Below is a transcript, lightly edited for style and clarity.
> >
> > Quartz: What do you think of a robot tax? This is the idea that in order to generate funds for training of workers, 
> > in areas such as manufacturing, who are displaced by automation, one concrete thing that governments could do is tax 
> > the installation of a robot in a factory, for example.
> >
> > Bill Gates: Certainly there will be taxes that relate to automation. Right now, the human worker who does, say, 
> > $50,000 worth of work in a factory, that income is taxed and you get income tax, social security tax, all those 
> > things. If a robot comes in to do the same thing, you’d think that we’d tax the robot at a similar level.
> >
> > And what the world wants is to take this opportunity to make all the goods and services we have today, and free up 
> > labor, let us do a better job of reaching out to the elderly, having smaller class sizes, helping kids with special 
> > needs. You know, all of those are things where human empathy and understanding are still very, very unique. And we 
> > still deal with an immense shortage of people to help out there.
> >
> > So if you can take the labor that used to do the thing automation replaces, and financially and training-wise and 
> > fulfillment-wise have that person go off and do these other things, then you’re net ahead. But you can’t just give 
> > up that income tax, because that’s part of how you’ve been funding that level of human workers.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
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