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Re Nightmare down under: For sale: any Australian's full health record for a mere $22


From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2017 03:29:56 +0000

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From: Narelle <narellec () gmail com>
Date: Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Nightmare down under: For sale: any Australian's full
health record for a mere $22
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>


Dave
this is incorrect - what is for sale is the person's name, date of birth,
Medicare number and card expiry date, ie the data you need to manufacture a
fake Medicare card. Medical records are not what is available for sale.

In Australia we have a system of universal health care and the gateway to
that is your Medicare card. You need it to get free or subsidised access to
medications and health services. Pretty much every Australian citizen has
one.

The other use for a Medicare card is in asserting your identity - many
banks and other services will accept your Medicare card as part of the
proof if ID. As of this week drivers' licenses will no longer use Medicare
cards as part of identity validation.

So the value of having someone's Medicare details is as follows:
- medical service fraud
- accessing medical records via a medical service providers
- identity theft

So still serious, but the e-health records (which virtually no-one uses)
are not what's for sale.

See:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/04/the-medicare-machine-patient-details-of-any-australian-for-sale-on-darknet

Cheers


Narelle

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 6:40 AM, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:


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From: Eric Burger <eburger () standardstrack com>
Date: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] Nightmare down under: For sale: any Australian's full
health record for a mere $22
To: Farber David <dave () farber net>


[for IP]

The sad thing is $22 is much less expensive than what it costs a patient
in the U.S. to get *their own* health care records. Maybe this should be
used to set a cap on the cost of records requests?

On Jul 5, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:



Begin forwarded message:

*From: *Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
*Subject: **[ NNSquad ] Nightmare down under: For sale: any Australian's
full health record for a mere $22*
*Date: *July 5, 2017 at 11:05:18 AM EDT
*To: *nnsquad () nnsquad org


Nightmare down under: For sale: any Australian's full health record for a
mere $22

http://boingboing.net/2017/07/05/medicare-machine.html

  A hacker who appears to have ongoing, continuous access to
Australia's electronic health care records is selling access
to any full record for 0.0089 bitcoin, or about USD22.  The
records are for sale through a darknet auction site, and the
seller promises that they will soon offer bulk access. All
that's needed to retrieve a record is first and last name and
date of birth. The Guardian confirmed the authenticity of the
records by paying for a reporter's own e-health file.  Giant
databases of sensitive information are very tempting targets.
The Australian health record contains lots of potentially
compromising and profitable information, including everything
needed to commit several kinds of identity theft.  Donald
Trump has proposed to aggregate a similar database through his
voting suppression efforts (he describes this as an "election
integrity commission"). 44 states have declined to deliver all
the data Trump requested.  Trump owe his own election to leaks
and hacks, and this incident highlights the kinds of outcomes
we can expect to see when enormous quantities of potentially
explosive data is aggregated and stored -- it's the equivalent
of refining harmless uranium ore into immortal, lethal
plutonium and then praying that none of that stuff leaks.

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Narelle
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