Re Australian man arrested in US for overstaying visa by 90 minutes

["Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
> Date: May 4, 2017 at 11:33:57 AM EDT
> To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>, Dave Crocker <dcrocker () gmail com>
> Cc: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
> Subject: Re: [IP] Re Australian man arrested in US for overstaying visa by 90 minutes
>
> > On May 2, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
> >
> > Joint blame.  D jf
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker () gmail com>
> > Date: Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IP] Australian man arrested in US for overstaying visa by 90 minutes
> > To: <dave () farber net>, ip <ip () listbox com>
> >
> >
> > > On 5/2/2017 10:33 AM, Dave Farber wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/australian-man-arrested-in-us-for-overstaying-visa-by-one-hour-20170501-gvw3yh.html
> >
> > The headline is nicely misleading, on two counts.
> >
> > The first is that while the arrest took place 90 minutes into the
> > 'violation', the physical circumstances guaranteed a continuing
> > violation:  The guy had no way to remedy the problem.
> >
> > More importantly is that his violation took place in the midst of his
> > /trying/ to remedy the situation before there was a violation, but
> > apparently the Canadian government folk balked.
> >
> > That is, a guy with a visa was attempted to follow the rules but got
> > caught in a cascading sequence of Canadian and US border staff hiccups.
> >
> > So the real issue here is not that the US government folk got petty but
> > that we seem to have such a toxic level of indeterminacy about US border
> > behavior, all sorts of government folk are behaving erratically.
>
> I agree with the last point, but I would like to put some nuance on the point about continuing violation.
>
> He did have a way to fix it. He could have gotten on a plane back to Australia. Maybe it would have taken more than 
> 90 minutes, but he certain could have done it in less than 1 day. Combined with the fact he was obviously trying to 
> fix it, and that he was clearly not a security risk, I think this puts the US Gov’t into a poor light.
>
> -- 
> TTFN,
> patrick



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