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Re Authoritarian Cryptocurrencies Are Coming


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 15:19:55 -0400




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From: Frederick Noronha <fredericknoronha () gmail com>
Date: October 18, 2017 at 3:18:01 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Authoritarian Cryptocurrencies Are Coming



... and India too, according to news reports:

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/business/economy/160917/govt-may-launch-indias-own-cryptocurrency-lakshmi-reports.html

Govt may launch India's own cryptocurrency 'Lakshmi': reports
DECCAN CHRONICLE
PublishedSep 16, 2017, 6:31 pm ISTUpdatedSep 16, 2017, 6:31 pm IST
The introduction of this new cryptocurrency may require the amendment of the Currency Act.

 The government is mulling launching India's own cryptocurrency.
Mumbai: With cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin gaining popularity in India, the government may roll out the country’s 
very own cryptocurrency.

According to a report in Business Standard, sources in the government said that a committee was set up to discuss the 
proposal of having India’s own cryptocurrency, as an alternative to the Indian rupee.

The report also said the government might name its cryptocurrency “Lakshmi”. 

Reserve Bank’s executive chairman Sudarshan Sen on Wednesday had said the central bank is not comfortable with 
non-fiat cryptocurrencies like the Bitcoin. He had also hinted that it may launch its own cryptocurrency. “Right now, 
we have a group of people who are looking at fiat cryptocurrencies. Something that is an alternative to the Indian 
rupee, so to speak. We are looking at that closely," Sen had said.

The introduction of this new cryptocurrency may require the amendment of the Currency Act.


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On 18 October 2017 at 23:43, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:



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From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
Date: October 18, 2017 at 9:28:54 AM EDT
To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net <dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Authoritarian Cryptocurrencies Are Coming
Reply-To: dewayne-net () warpspeed com

Authoritarian Cryptocurrencies Are Coming
Russia and China see a new way to completely control their financial systems.
By Leonid Bershidsky
Oct 17 2017
<https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-10-17/authoritarian-cryptocurrencies-are-coming>

With Russia and China both embracing the idea of sovereign cryptocurrencies, it's time to ask a simple question: 
Why is a technology threatening to decentralize money so attractive to highly centralized, authoritarian regimes?

Last weekend, Argumenti i Fakti, a pro-government newspaper, quoted Russian Communication Minister Nikolai 
Nikiforov as saying President Vladimir Putin had ordered the swift launching of a "crypto-ruble." According to the 
report, Nikiforov said the currency would use "Russian cryptography" and would be impossible to "mine" like bitcoin 
because it would be "a closed model with a definite volume of regulated emission." This follows statements by 
Central Bank Governor Elvira Nabiullina and Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, who stressed the need for the Russian 
state to bring cryptocurrency emission and use under control.  

Nikidforov's vague description of the crypto-ruble sounds similar to recent unofficial Chinese proposals. Yao Qian, 
deputy director of the People's Bank of China's technology division, has discussed a central bank-issued electronic 
currency for which commercial banks would administer "wallets." Other Chinese officials and state-affiliated 
researchers have also echoed the idea. 

To those who believe bitcoin's main innovation is the exclusion of a central authority -- a peer-to-peer system in 
which transactions are validated by "miners" -- the interest of China and Russia is baffling. But those governments 
aren't looking to give up control to the blockchain. On the contrary, they are trying to figure out how to lower 
the cost for a centralized issuer to control everything that's going on in the financial system. 

The electronic money we use today is produced by private banks: It is, essentially, their liabilities to each 
other. As a recent Bank of International Settlements paperpointed out, "Cash is the only means by which the public 
can hold central bank money. If someone wishes to digitize that holding, he/she has to convert the central bank 
liability into a commercial bank liability by depositing the cash in a bank." Cash, however, has disadvantages for 
both central banks and governments. For one thing, it's costly to print, mint, distribute and destroy. Changes to 
the banknotes and coins can take years to administer. Theft and robbery are risks. At the same time, cash is 
anonymous; criminals and tax evaders depend on it.

All these problems and some others -- such as the time lags in a traditional electronic payment system as money 
moves between banks -- can be solved if a central bank can issue its own cryptocurrency and have transactions 
registered in a bitcoin-like distributed ledger, verified by central bank-approved agents. If that sounds like a 
version of the traditional banking system, there is, potentially, a big difference thanks to the verifiers' more 
limited role than that played by commercial banks. "With a lower entry hurdle to becoming a transactions verifier 
in a distributed system than to becoming a member bank in a tiered system, we would expect more intense competition 
in the provision of payment services," Bank of England's John Barrdear and Michael Kumhof wrote in a paper last 
year. "To the extent that existing systems grant pricing power to member institutions, this should ensure that 
transaction fees more accurately reflect the marginal cost of verification."

The costs of running a monetary system would go down, payments between companies and individuals would speed up, 
and transactions would become traceable by governments, above all for tax purposes. Nikiforov talked of imposing 
income tax on the conversion of crypto-rubles into ordinary rubles unless their owner can show how the digital 
currency was obtained.

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