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Re Someone Is Sending Amazon Sex Toys to Strangers. Amazon Has No Idea How to Stop It.


From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:39:11 +0000

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From: Chuck McManis <chuck.mcmanis () gmail com>
Date: Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] Someone Is Sending Amazon Sex Toys to Strangers. Amazon
Has No Idea How to Stop It.
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>


[For IP if you wish]

If you haven't yet read through the stories of the 'Amazon keeps sending me
stuff', the short answer is that this is 'brushing' or creating a 'verified
purchaser' tag for a positive review. And Amazon has everything it needs at
its disposal to stop it, the vendor's name and address, the recipient's
name and address, and a physical package in which to insert a note with a
simple instruction: "If you didn't order this item, got to this Amazon link
in your web browser. Feel free to discard the product in the box."

The motives are pretty simple, products with good reviews sell better. So
the reviews are gamed. And that game has become more sophisticated over the
years.

Amazon attached 'verified purchaser' to a review if it can trace the
reviewed product to an order delivered to the Amazon customer. That boosts
the 'social credibility of the review and so it gets past the 'baloney'
filters for a number of potential purchasers. Now create a 'seller' account
with Amazon have the seller account report a 'product sale' to Amazon with
the amazon id of someone whose home address you know (this is sadly very
easy with things like the Equifax breach data set), ship them a product and
then post either a glowing review of the product your helping, or a bad
review of a product you are trying to hurt in the marketplace. You have now
completely simulated the sales cycle (not something Amazon can easily
validate on every transaction) and for the marginal cost of one widget you
have effected a much higher population in their buying decision. With
enough data points this stuff is readily measurable through some simple
analysis.

The 'fix' is for Amazon to inject itself into the pipe in a way that the
seller and vendor are unable to defeat. That is the 'card in the box.'
Every order has an order number and Amazon can generate a URL through an
Amazon URL shortening service that would indicate the order was fraudulent.
If the recipient visits the URL you look for the review, if you find it you
change it to "Fraudulent Reviewer" (you could remove it but public seller
shaming is even better)

This is another example of how the information economy influences the goods
economy. There the marginal value of the bogus review can be computed in
terms of lifetime product sales affected.

--Chuck

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:



https://www.thedailybeast.com/someone-is-sending-amazon-sex-toys-to-strangers-amazon-has-no-idea-how-to-stop-it

Someone Is Sending Amazon Sex Toys to Strangers. Amazon Has No Idea How to
Stop It.

The first time Nikki unexpectedly received a sex toy in an Amazon
<https://www.thedailybeast.com/amazon-eats-up-whole-foods-as-the-new-masters-of-the-universe-plunder-america>
box, she thought there must have been a mix-up at the factory. She’d bought
some mascara that hadn’t arrived yet.

“At first I believed it to be a mistake,” she said.

But then the other packages came, one by one. A cord to a Bluetooth device
was next. No gift receipt, no footprints and, as she’d discover over the
next week, no help. The last package had headphones.

“The weird part about it is if this were a prank or a hacker sending
things to women on the internet, it’d be expensive. I looked [the sex toy]
up, and it’s $25, which is sort of substantial,” she said.

“It seems so personal.”

Nikki’s story is part of a broiling internal mystery that is flummoxing
Amazon, according to a source at the company: Someone is shipping out
unsolicited products, frequently sex toys, to seemingly random customers,
and the company does not yet know why they’re being purchased, and why
they’re being shipped to people like Nikki.

An Amazon spokesperson said that the unsolicited packages sent to Nikki
are “part of some bad behavior that we are investigating.”

“We are investigating inquiries from consumers who have received
unsolicited packages as this would violate our policies. We have confirmed
the sellers involved did not receive names or shipping addresses from
Amazon,” this spokesperson told The Daily Beast.

“We remove sellers in violation of our policies, withhold payments, and
work with law enforcement to take appropriate action.”

Nikki spent much of last week fearing she was being cyberstalked, she
said, “considering the item he sent to me costs a substantial amount and
came from a nicer-looking company.” She mostly wanted to know if whoever
was sending the packages was nearby, and how involved the police should be.

She took to Amazon’s customer service phone tree, attempting to figure out
how worried she should be. She had read a story on the internet
<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10682994/Amazon-stalker-sent-anonymous-deliveries-of-illicit-novels-to-victim-court-hears.html>
about a British man who had been using Amazon’s gift service to send
erotica
<https://www.thedailybeast.com/to-be-finally-freed-from-the-clutches-of-fifty-shades-of-grey>
to a woman he was cyberstalking, and read the company “refuses to disclose
the identity of senders ‘for reasons of confidentiality.’”

“I mainly want to know this man’s name and where he is located in order to
ensure that he isn’t in my city,” she said. “This was also beginning to
affect my roommate, and neither of us are keen on staying at our own
apartment anymore.”

Over the next few days, Nikki claims she was repeatedly ignored, lied to,
or not taken seriously by countless customer service representatives in an
effort to find out why cryptic packages with her name on them were winding
up on her doorstep.

On Nikki’s first call with Amazon, she “had to fight with a representative
to take my concerns seriously.” She was then sent to a supervisor a who was
“under the impression that I was simply calling to find out who sent me a
fun gift to satisfy my own curiosity,” she said.

Those first two steps, she said, happened several times.

Over time, calling the customer service line back over and over, she would
piece together information. The name on the account that shipped the
product was different from the one used on the credit card, she discovered,
all of which were different from her name and address.

Eventually, she was able to find out the man’s full name and state through
a game of guess and check with a customer service representative, because
Nikki was told she “could guess names and she’d tell me ‘yes’ or ‘no.’”

One supervisor gave what Nikki said was a fake phone number to push a
complaint up the chain, and she said another customer service employee
confirmed that the number wasn’t associated with Amazon.

Later, she was told Amazon was conducting an internal review to “ensure
this would never happen again,” but wouldn’t have access to who was sending
her the packages and why.

“This was obviously unacceptable, as my primary concern remains finding
out whether or not this man is in my city,” she said. “As we all know,
billing addresses do not always match a person’s location. The fact that
his account is associated with Missouri is virtually meaningless. This guy
could be anywhere.”

That’s when she decided to get the police involved.

“It was clear to me that no one was able to help me, and many were simply
unwilling,” she said.

Nikki was told by a supervisor, the highest ranking person she’d spoken to
yet, to bring law enforcement officers on the phone along with her. She
did, and it didn’t help.

“The supervisor kept repeating that I needed a [police] officer. The
officer was speaking to her, repeating that he was an officer and that I
had followed through on all of the specific instructions I was given for
when an officer was present,” she said.

On that phone call, after hours on the phone, she was told that the only
notes made by Amazon in her account were the words “police report.”

The officer then asked for a number to follow up on the report and “Amazon
either refused to give it to him, or they did not have access to the number
themselves,” said Nikki.

The representative told Nikki and the officer they would have to mail in a
subpoena.

“In the subpoena email that we got, they were asking me to provide them
with a name, credit card, and bank number of the person who sent it to me,”
she said.

“Nobody’s listening to me.”

The Daily Beast repeatedly asked Amazon to comment on Nikki’s treatment in
the dozens of phone calls and emails with the company’s customer service
department. The company did not comment on the specific allegations.

News reports of families and college students receiving random Amazon
packages have sprouted up everywhere from Massachusetts
<http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/weird/ct-free-amazon-packages-unwanted-20180207-story.html>
to several university cities in Canada
<http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/business/sex-toys-amazon-anonymous-packages-1.4506318>
over the past month. A student at Canada’s Ryerson University received a
vibrator. A student union at University of Regina received a male sex toy
called a Fleshlight. An Amazon source said sex toys
<https://www.thedailybeast.com/vegas-thieves-take-off-with-thousands-of-condoms-and-sex-toys>,
for some reason, have made up a sizable portion of the packages.

The reports have led many to guess who would go to such great lengths and
expense to send random items, everything from vibrators to turntables, to
strangers on the internet.

Sources both in and out of Amazon have one theory. It’s called, in
Amazon-speak, verified review hacking.

Amazon uses a review system that heavily weights “verified
purchases”—reviews by users who have purchased a specific product through
Amazon—over other reviews.

This could give sellers incentive to buy and ship their own products to
strangers from dummy accounts. Those dummy accounts could then give the
product a 5-star review and, in turn, help it surface higher in Amazon and
Google searches.

That was the going theory of two former Amazon workers who talked to the *Boston
Globe*’s Sean Murphy
<https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2018/02/06/these-people-keep-getting-mystery-packages-from-amazon-they-didn-order/BkAq4hcXroCNLVRqUq4rtL/story.html>
.

But the Amazon spokesperson appeared to rebuff and downplayed the idea of
the unsolicited packages being part of a widespread review scam.

“We investigate every report of customers receiving unsolicited packages,
and thus far our investigations have shown very few reviews submitted
associated with these shipments,” the spokesperson said. “We will continue
our ongoing efforts to prevent abuse and will ban all vendors and reviewers
who abuse the reviews system.”

Amazon’s investigation, according to a source, has yielded one important
piece of information: If there’s a common denominator between the
customers, Amazon said it’s not coming from a mailing list or any other
common group within Amazon’s database.

Nikki’s name and address are exactly right on the packages that have been
shipped to her, which means her address might have been accessible through
a mailing list or data breach elsewhere.

An Amazon source said there’s currently no way to stop the packages from
arriving at Nikki’s doorstep, like a temporary hold on packages sent to her
home, or a two-factor security feature that would require her to prove her
identity before receiving a package at her address.

Nikki asked for The Daily Beast to only use her first name, in part
because of the anonymous packages. She also feared local political
consequences in Pittsburgh, where she lives, as her city’s mayor is
publicly vying for Amazon to build its second headquarters in the city.

Nikki said she doesn’t care about the packages themselves.

“I’ve seen all these other reports now, and all of these other people are
saying they got these really cool gadgets,” Nikki said on Tuesday, after
The Daily Beast let her know of Amazon’s findings.

“I’m like, ‘Why didn’t I get one of those?’ At least send me the Bluetooth
speaker to go along with the cord.”

Nikki now just wants to make absolutely certain she’s safe in her own
home, which is still not something Amazon can guarantee until the
investigation is complete.

“The kicker here is that I completely understand why it was so difficult
to access this man’s information,” she said. “I appreciate that Amazon has
policies in place to protect their users’ privacy, and it shouldn’t be easy
for a customer or even the police to access a person’s private information
through a corporation.”

She’d also like an explanation for her lost week tangled in Amazon’s
customer service web, when she was sent an anonymous sex toy with no
explanation—and it took a public relations crisis to get an answer.

“Amazon must address the fact that every representative I spoke to gave me
different and often conflicting information,” she said.

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