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Re Report: Software bug led to death in Uber's self-driving crash
From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 16:53:17 -0400
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From: Mary Shaw <mary.shaw () gmail com> Date: May 8, 2018 at 4:50:17 PM EDT To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Re: [IP] Report: Software bug led to death in Uber's self-driving crash The telling paragraph: "Uber had been racing to meet an end-of-year internal goal of allowing customers in the Phoenix area to ride in Uber’s autonomous Volvo vehicles with no safety driver sitting behind the wheel," Efrati added. It has been known for a long time that things can go badly wrong when nontechnical considerations are allowed to interfere with "the technological practitioner's first duty: utter probity toward the engineered object -- from its conception through its commissioning for use". See, for example, the rich set of case studies in Arthur Squires' "The Tender Ship" -- published in 1986On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote: Begin forwarded message:From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: May 7, 2018 at 6:27:41 PM EDT To: nnsquad () nnsquad org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Report: Software bug led to death in Uber's self-driving crash Report: Software bug led to death in Uber's self-driving crash https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/05/report-software-bug-led-to-death-in-ubers-self-driving-crash/ The fatal crash that killed pedestrian Elaine Herzberg in Tempe, Arizona, in March occurred because of a software bug in Uber's self-driving car technology, The Information's Amir Efrati reported on Monday. According to two anonymous sources who talked to Efrati, Uber's sensors did, in fact, detect Herzberg as she crossed the street with her bicycle. Unfortunately, the software classified her as a "false positive" and decided it didn't need to stop for her. Distinguishing between real objects and illusory ones is one of the most basic challenges of developing self-driving car software. Software needs to detect objects like cars, pedestrians, and large rocks in its path and stop or swerve to avoid them. However, there may be other objects--like a plastic bag in the road or a trash can on the sidewalk--that a car can safely ignore. Sensor anomalies may also cause software to detect apparent objects where no objects actually exist. - - - --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein (Archives | Modify Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now
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