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Re: Internet Attack's Disruptions More Serious Than Many


From: InfoSec News <isn () c4i org>
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:35:37 -0600 (CST)

Forwarded from: Aj Effin Reznor <aj () reznor com>

"InfoSec News was known to say....."

Regarding the disclosure issue...MS released/disclosed a patch on 24
July 02...a fact conveniently missing from the article.  Rather than
an issue of how much is too much to disclose, why not address the
real issue...the products in question should never have been exposed
to the Internet.  The issue was only an exploitable vulnerability if
it could be executed...and as yet, there hasn't been a valid
business case presented for exposing that port for that application
to the Internet.

Without questioning the integrity of the original article (one could
bore the ISN subscribership with that in an entirely different email),
perhaps we should point out that some patches, particularly SQL ones,
are "difficult" to apply.  Or, may be applied but not "take effect",
not even after a reboot.

Here's an idea.  Stop writing code that allows this to happen, rather
than issuing a patch after the fact?

In a day when "good code" equates to "compiles without errors", what
can we expect from computed attempts to be trustworthy.  That this
appeared the day after Gates' spam on secured computing is coincidal
at best, but still beautiful.

As for exposing the affected port to the internet, so what, who cares,
etc.  I'm all for running the smallest amount of services possible,
and also for good neighbor-ism on the net, but if someone wants or, by
their own questionable biz model, "needs" to expose a port, they
should be able to do so.  I'm no more going to tell people what they
cannot do than accept being told what I cannot do.  If they
want/"need" to expose ports, they should be able to do so **safely**.  
Ask MS why they can't do it safely rather than demanding a valid
reason why the given port was exposed at all.

Just like parents today, chasing down every societal ill rather than
just raising their children properly (like the Drunk Dude that was
upset that his children had to read my F*CK REDHAT shirt at a
restaurant the other night).  Don't worry about the port, worry about
the poorly coded app that can't be hung out in the wind.


-aj.



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