Re: Internet II is coming...

[bmanning () ISI EDU]

Hi,
        I suspect that, as this -is- the NANOG list, there is a tendency
        to focus on tight, near-term technical issues.  Just maybe,
        the problem is that commodity internet services are being 
        priced for the 28.8 dialup Win95 user and his upstream provider.

        I would posit that those behind the Inet2 proposals are trying
        to involk a different price point.  In some sense the higher
        ed. environment is the traditional ISPs worst nightmare.

        The dialup client is history. All your clients are running
        with ethernet or faster links to your core. DS3 links are 
        a joke.  OC3c is your nearterm (3-6 month) deliverable.
        You really want 10x OC3c, -clear-channel- pipes from a 
        provider in the next 12 months.

        This is not your ISPs provider here. Multiple DS3s from
        anyone or multiple 100Meg ports on a GigaSwitch are not
        even in the cards.

        When will MCI/Sprint/WorldCom/ATT provide cost effective,
        clear channel OC48 pipes?  The old NSFnet solved the DS3
        issues for y'all.  Who is going to take the lead on the 
        next steps?  


--bill
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