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Re: GigaRouter (Was Re: Cisco as Big Brother))
From: Alexis Rosen <alexis () panix com>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 06:48:35 -0400 (EDT)
Vadim Antonov writes:
Alexis Rosen <alexis () panix com> wrote:Of course I'm not saying that I *Want* to use an HD in this situation; flash is clearly a big win.In my experience flash is a lot _less_ reliable than HDs. Ciscos losing flash contents aren't that uncommon.
(In a later message Vadim attributes this to environmental conditions.) This doesn't match my experience. My hazy recollection is that it should be good for o(10k) writes. That should be plenty even if you do do updates weekly. Maybe environment *is* critical here. In that case, I'd think an HD would be even more susceptible to the heat. Though a floppy probably wouldn't be.
But I don't see how using a floppy or ZIP improves wins.Floppy doesn't rotate until it's boot time; and in COs dust is not a big problem. So, for a boot device floppy is probably the best (providing it's not an el cheapo device). An additional benefit is that it's easy for field personnel to handle.
I don't think it's a lot easier to handle than an ISA card, although you can probably hot-swap a floppy, which is a win. (But maybe not much of a win- the way you're likely to figure out the floppy is dead is when you're trying to boot...) Also, a reliable floppy is indeed going to last a very long time, especially in low-use situations like this one. But it's *very* difficult to assure that you're getting a reliable floppy drive. Even assuming that you've identified a manufacturer that makes a good product, it takes *major* buying power to have them agree to not change the manufacturing design. Some supplier of theirs substitutes a part, nobody notices, and all of a sudden you've got a 5% failure rate and no clue why. And then there's the media. Whole 'nother problem. All of these problems are solveable, of course. But solving a similar problem with flash may be easier. And cheaper. /a - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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- Re: GigaRouter (Was Re: Cisco as Big Brother)) Alexis Rosen (Oct 19)
- Re: GigaRouter (Was Re: Cisco as Big Brother)) Vadim Antonov (Oct 19)
- Re: GigaRouter (Was Re: Cisco as Big Brother)) Robert Sanders (Oct 19)
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