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Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch
From: Karl Denninger <karl () Mcs Net>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:21:40 -0500
On Thu, Apr 10, 1997 at 03:31:59PM -0700, Michael Dillon wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 1997, Karl Denninger wrote:The rest of the organizations that have announced an intent to sign at a formal^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^The IAHC has said they *SIGNED* the documents. Intent and action are two different things Perry.Grow up Karl! Hank Nussbacher said as follows: Of the over 25 signatories (so far), MCI is just one. UUnet, Digital, France Telecom, EFF, are others that come to mind. Hank is only one member of the IAHC and does not issue official statements.
But he lied. The EFF has said they *HAVE NOT* signed. In fact, according to the other people involved, *NONE* of those so-called signatories are in fact signatories at this point in time.
He's also human and can make mistakes. Maybe since English is not the only language he uses in his daily work, he missed some of the subtlety inherent in the word "signatory".
There is no subtlety in the word "signatory".
So the truth is that there are *TWO* signatures, one of which is bogus as IANA isn't an organization (and thus can't sign anything as "IANA"; Mr. Postel can sign the document as *JON POSTEL*, but not as the "IANA" as it is a task, not an organization).Jon Postel can sign any document he darn well pleases under whatever rubric he darn well pleases to use. In particular, it is well known that Jon Postel is the official voice of IANA and is the one who makes official statements for IANA. This MoU looks a lot like an official statement to me.
The IANA *DOES NOT EXIST* as an organization. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl () MCS Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, http://www.mcs.net/ Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| NOW Serving 56kbps DIGITAL on our analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch, (continued)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Michael Dillon (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Hank Nussbacher (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Karl Denninger (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Perry E. Metzger (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Karl Denninger (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Perry E. Metzger (Apr 10)
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- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch - what did IAHC press release say? Gregory Hersh (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Karl Denninger (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Karl Denninger (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Dave Crocker (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Michael Dillon (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Karl Denninger (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Wayne D. Correia (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Karl Denninger (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Dave Crocker (Apr 10)
- Re: NEWDOM: Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Michael Dillon (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Hank Nussbacher (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Hank Nussbacher (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Hank Nussbacher (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Perry E. Metzger (Apr 10)
- Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch Karl Denninger (Apr 10)