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Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny
From: Allan Chong <allan () bellsouth net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 03:15:33 -0800
Mike Leber wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Allan Chong wrote:Even despite the inevitable chargebacks, many spammers would decide that fighting with the credit card company isn't worth it.Uh, you have this backwards. If you read most credit card merchant agreements, online services have no recourse, without a physical signature from the customer, against chargebacks for online service. This is because they are treated as phone orders where the presumption is in the customers favor.
By chargeback, I meant to the merchant. But it still was a hassle on a simple chargeback I did. I probably wasted 5 hours writing letters and on the phone to make it stick. The technical reasons Vadim gives are essential, to ensure that everything is as it appears, but what does the ISP do when one of their users does something. Most don't have any clear cut policy. When the spam is coming from the network of a paying business customer, operators often have to start tiptoeing lightly. We're going to see more balkanization of the net as operators have to start deciding between the good ISPs and bad ISPs. allan 3 posts in a day. I must be getting old and grumpy. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Vadim Antonov (Jan 09)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Allan Chong (Jan 09)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Mike Leber (Jan 09)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Allan Chong (Jan 10)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Larry J. Plato (Jan 10)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Mike Leber (Jan 09)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Mike Leber (Jan 09)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny alex (Jan 10)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Paul Ferguson (Jan 09)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Vadim Antonov (Jan 09)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Vadim Antonov (Jan 10)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Dan Busarow (Jan 10)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Paul Ferguson (Jan 10)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Dan Busarow (Jan 10)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Vadim Antonov (Jan 10)
(Thread continues...)
- Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny Allan Chong (Jan 09)