Re: Terminating many T1's

[Brian Horvitz <horvitz () websecure net>]

Actually, up in Boston, MFS derives all their pricing by taking the Nynex
end-to-end price and subtracting a certain percentage (at least 10%).  I
may be mistaken but, I think they still do this even with the DS3 Hub.
You still pay two chan terms.  A Nynex chan term is about $200 so this
ends up being quite an expense.  The overall savings still makes it worth
while if you are going to sell a lot of T1s - if only for the headache,
you only need two aspirin at the end of the day instead of four.

Brian

On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Nathan Stratton wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Ben Kirkpatrick, ELI wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Stephen Balbach wrote:
> > > 1. Cisco serial ports and rack CSU/DSU's. Exspensive. Lot of space. 
> > Cisco has a channelized DS3 card.  Wire once to dacs and provision in
> > software only.
> >
> > > 2. MAX TNT for T1's connecting to a backbone Cisco. Theoretically up to 140 
> > >    T1's in 1 small box with built-in CSU/DSU's. Unproven?
>
> Vary.
>
> > > 3. Cascade. Similair to TNT approach, very exspensive untill you reach 
> > >    70+ T1's in a chassis.
> > Cascade has a channelized DS3 card as well.  Good for combining many
> > customers who have a physical T1.  Split out at the dacs.
>
> Yes tend to be big bucks, but is not that bad if you have many T1s to
> terminate. 
>
> > > 4. Chanellized DS3. Don't know anything about it - can MFS provide circuits
> > >    this way via a DS3 handoff? No CSU/DSU required? Any other costs/issues?
> > Channelized DS3 stuff only seems to be useful for putting mulitple
> > customers on a single physical circuit.  You need to be able to break it
> > out to the DS1 level for each customer.  Perhaps MFS, PacBell, etc can do
> > this?  It's probably just a matter of them defining that "product".
> > (I.E. Feed MFS a DS3 and they give a T1 to each of your customers.)
>
> Yes, the Cascade and Cisco CT3 have a built in M13 built in. All you need
> to do is order a DS3 HUB into the providers you want. What we do is run a
> few DS3s into the COs in our area. You may want to run a DS3 into a few
> telcos also. They can you get the best price for your customers.
>
> DS3 HUBs can be a little on the high side, but they more then pay for
> themselves. Say you run a DS3 HUB into Bell Atlantic, you spend around 3K
> for the HUB. When you order your customers T1s you only order a 1/2
> channel term. So you can more then pay for it with around 9 - 13 DS1s.
>
>
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