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Re: Non-ISP companies multi-homing?
From: Eric Germann <ekgermann () cctec com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:09:51 -0400
In honor of Ms. Hubbards pontification, I am starting a little archive: mailto:tcap () cctec com This archive will be for people to send me (so we don't clog up NANOG) Totally Clueless Allocation Policies of providers. So all you consultants, send me your examples of hosed allocation policies from providers, large and small. You don't have to name your clients, but please do name the providers. I will summarize and forward to Kim and anyone else who cares at the end of two weeks and maybe we'll get an idea of who allocates correctly and who doesn't I'll start off with two examples: 1) Billion dollar company. MCI is their upstream. 5 divisions on one campus. Each has a mailgate, proxy, webserver, and router. Total need per division: 4 addresses. Total allocation: 5 x /24 . % Used: 1.6 % Waste: 98.4 MCI's response when we said take em back: "Why?" 2) Small office. PSI DDR LAN solution. 1 office, 2 PC's, one router. Total need: 3 Total Allocation: 1 x /24. % Used: 1.18% % Waste: 98.82 PSI's response when he said "All I need is a /29": "This is the way we do it. It's just easier for us." BTW Kim, I've gotten 4 responses in two hours on how to nail down all your addresses so a ping sweep shows them in use. Might just be a LITTLE more prevalent than ya'll think, eh? Go back and sweep MCI and PSI and Sprint et. al. and SEE what they really use. Then follow your own guidelines and maybe the startups won't bitch so much... You can bet when people start paying for addresses there gonna be pretty pissed when they aren't fully routable. Anyone care for the summary in two weeks? Mail me privately. Eric At 04:24 PM 7/25/97 -0400, Kim Hubbard wrote:
I'm beginning to think there is a market for a device which has 1 Ethernet port and responds to any RANGE of addresses, so you can scam Internic into thinking you have 100% utilization of your address space, right off the
bat...
Yeah, because the conservation of IP space only helps InterNIC - it doesn't help you or your customers or anyone else on the Internet. Let's just use up all the address space....that'll teach the InterNIC! KimEric
============================================================================ ==== Eric Germann Computer and Communications Technologies ekgermann () cctec com Van Wert, OH 45891 Phone: 419 968 2640 http://www.cctec.com Fax: 419 968 2641 Network Design, Connectivity & System Integration Services A Microsoft Solution Provider
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- RE: Non-ISP companies multi-homing?, (continued)
- RE: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? root (Jul 24)
- RE: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? Gabriel M. Schuyler (Jul 27)
- RE: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? Eric Germann (Jul 25)
- RE: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? rbenn (Jul 25)
- RE: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? root (Jul 25)
- Re: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? Kim Hubbard (Jul 25)
- Re: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? Dean Gaudet (Jul 25)
- Re: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? Matthew Silvey (Jul 25)
- RE: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? Eric Germann (Jul 25)
- RE: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? root (Jul 26)
- Re: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? Eric Germann (Jul 25)
- Re: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? Tim Gibson (Jul 26)
- Re: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? Eric Germann (Jul 26)
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- Re: Non-ISP companies multi-homing? Jason Matthews (Jul 26)
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