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Re: connectivity outside the US


From: mansboury () yesvirtual com (Mark Ansboury)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:03:17 +1000

What you are describing is reasonable in a truly open market environment.
However, the cost of committing to $650K to $800K for E1s limits the field
significantly. Especially when the carriers bid on a large portion of the
available bandwidth. The availability of 100G loops will be diminished by
the more financially sound carriers (i.e., Telstra). I think you know those
guys. When you look at the demand between now and the year 2000 and you
guys will be looking at consuming +200M of the bandwidth for IP services
and God knows how much for the more traditional services. 

Even though the investment has remained relatively constant the market
pricing has not.

I don't see it being a game for the faint hearted. And the massive
consumption from the likes of AT&T, BT/MCI and Worldcom will greatly
influence the pricing. You may see a trend towards reducing the price for
the bulk buyers/investors, but it will not likely come down as fast as your
predict for the low to moderate users. Your assessment may be right, but I
am not so sure we will see it before the year 2000.

Mark
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From: Geoff Huston <gih () telstra net>
To: Mark Ansboury <mansboury () yesvirtual com>
Cc: Sean M. Doran <smd () clock org>; avg () pluris com; bgreene () cisco com;
jesse () netthink com; map () iphil net; nanog () merit edu; smd () clock org
Subject: Re: connectivity outside the US
Date: Sunday, June 01, 1997 6:04 PM

Supply and demand - the cables which are being commissioned in late 98
and
99 look to be 100G loop designs in bot the Pacific and Atlantic
environments. The system price looks like remaining pretty constant -
around $500M give or take a few hundred mil - despite a 50 fold increase
in
capacity. Its reasonable to expect a radical bottoming out of unit price
for IRUs sometime in 99 for these cables. What does that mean? The
scarcity
premium in cable price which will be evident through 98 will be
eliminated
in 99 and insterad you'll see a return to a technology-indexed unit
price,
where the price will reflect the basic project costs And given the
increase
in cable capacity due to WDM deployment you can expect a unit price drop.



At 12:18 PM 1/6/97 +1000, Mark Ansboury wrote:
The cost for
overseas cables are not going to be coming down in a big way over the
next
couple of years. They will more likely go up. At least for our
foreseeable
future. The next few years. The pent up demand is to great. 



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