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Re: Domain Rant.
From: Karl Denninger <karl () Mcs Net>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:39:13 -0600
On Thu, Mar 20, 1997 at 08:06:16PM -0800, Michael Dillon wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Karl Denninger wrote:IAHC's proposal fixes the problem folks are seeing with NS today.No it doesn't. If you register with someone, pay them, and they claim never to have received payment you're just as screwed. They hold or delete your record and you end up paying again.My understanding is that the precise protocol used to register a new name has not been frozen yet. This issue can be addressed if CORE requires a non-repudiable transaction from a registrar in order to register a domain or to update its payment status. And even if the IAHC were so foolish as to not consider this possibility they certainly did create a Policy Oversight Committee that can change procedures at any time.
So what? The registrar claims you haven't paid and didn't submit the non-repudiable transaction (because they claim it didn't happen). You have a cancelled check. This is precisely the situation people are claiming is happening to them. Again, the problem isn't payments being posted that didn't happen, its payments made which *didn't get posted*. Non-repudiation doesn't help this situation; that's a control on *positive* events, not ones which people claim didn't occur. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl () MCS Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, Web servers $75/mo Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| Email to "info () mcs net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- Re: Domain Rant., (continued)
- Re: Domain Rant. Chris Yarnell (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Dave Crocker (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Paul A Vixie (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Kent Crispin (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Perry E. Metzger (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Alex Rubenstein (Mar 20)
- Re: Domain Rant. Dave Crocker (Mar 20)
- Re: Domain Rant. Paul A Vixie (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Philip J. Nesser II (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Michael Dillon (Mar 20)
- Re: Domain Rant. Karl Denninger (Mar 20)
- Re: Domain Rant. Dave Crocker (Mar 20)
- Please move elsewhere (was Re: Domain Rant) David R. Conrad (Mar 20)
- Re: Domain Rant. Perry E. Metzger (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Karl Denninger (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Steve Kann (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Karl Denninger (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Perry E. Metzger (Mar 21)
- Paul and Karl going at it again -- don't read this (Re: Domain Rant. ) Paul A Vixie (Mar 21)
- Re: Domain Rant. Dave Crocker (Mar 20)
- Re: Domain Rant. Marcos Della (Mar 21)