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Re: Who Are The Good Guys?
From: Ed Landa <elanda () comstar net>
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:58:37 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 13 May 1997, David Stoddard wrote:
of our engineers called them this afternoon, they said they were innocent because someone was using them as a relay -- nice try, but if they were a relay, we should not have seen any messages other than those destined for addresses on our network. Instead, we got the entire spam feed. They even went so far as to insert forged Received headers into the messages to try and throw us off.
Maybe in this case you were being sharked, but before we got everything clamped down on our servers we saw a number of spammers who were 'multi-hopping' their UCE and including faking headers and sending false HELO data. The excerpt below from my archives shows them bouncing mail off our server, to iea.com, and then to AOL. The real originator was at rmii.com, but they attempted to put in some semi-fake headers before that. I guess the moral of the story is "trust no one, and filter, filter, filter..." Sad, but true. Ed -------- Ed Landa ComStar Communications Corp. 770-333-8779 ----------------------- Headers --------------------------------
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Current thread:
- Who Are The Good Guys? David Stoddard (May 13)
- Re: Who Are The Good Guys? Geoff White (May 14)
- Re: Who Are The Good Guys? Dorn Hetzel (May 14)
- Re: Who Are The Good Guys? Geoff White (May 14)
- Re: Who Are The Good Guys? Dorn Hetzel (May 14)
- Re: Who Are The Good Guys? Jesse Caulfield (May 14)
- Re: Who Are The Good Guys? David R. Conrad (May 14)
- Re: Who Are The Good Guys? Dorn Hetzel (May 14)
- Re: Who Are The Good Guys? Geoff White (May 14)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re[2]: Who Are The Good Guys? ptripp (May 15)
- Re: Who Are The Good Guys? Scott Hazen Mueller (May 15)