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Re: IP spoofing and spamming
From: Jeremy Porter <jerry () fc net>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:50:41 -0600
In message <2.2.32.19971029014215.0069407c () max ibm net il>, Hank Nussbacher wri tes:
At 07:34 PM 10/28/97 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:The Internet works because people don't abuse other's resources. If people abuse my resources, I stop allowing the abuse. If they threaten to sue, I laugh and tell them to go right ahead. We write our contracts so that we can shut off people who spam, even on the first offense.I would be interested in seeing a copy of that contract. When suits (lawyers) get involved, how do you show that a violation has happened? Remember, no complaint has come to you and you would have had to sniff his line and open his smtp pkts to see he was spamming which would invoke a countersuit.
We reserve the right to monitor our network for operation issues, and spoofed IP addressses are a well understood secureity risk, and I would like to think that everyone monitors and blocks spoofed address whenever they can. The ECPA offers some protection from monitoring, but it specifically allows it for maintaning the systems. I'm not 100% sure that the ECPA (US only, btw, so it probably doesn't help you), applies, but I think there is a good basis for it applying. --- Jeremy Porter, Freeside Communications, Inc. jerry () fc net PO BOX 80315 Austin, Tx 78708 | 1-800-968-8750 | 512-458-9810 http://www.fc.net
Current thread:
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming, (continued)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Karl Denninger (Oct 28)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming J.D. Falk (Oct 28)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Dalvenjah FoxFire (Oct 28)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Stephen Dolloff (Oct 28)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Dale Drew (Oct 28)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Jon Lewis (Oct 28)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Hank Nussbacher (Oct 28)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Karl Denninger (Oct 28)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Steve Mansfield (Oct 28)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Alan Hannan (Oct 29)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Jeremy Porter (Oct 29)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Hank Nussbacher (Oct 28)
- Re: IP spoofing and spamming Sean Donelan (Oct 29)