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Re: Definition of transit
From: Nathan Stratton <nathan () netrail net>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 17:00:36 +0000 (GMT)
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Bradley Dunn wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Nathan Stratton wrote:If they buy transit, or do not buy transit from UUNet makes no difference. You don't see a problem with pointing default at UUNet or any other provider?Ummm...correct me if I am wrong, but isn't transit usually defined as being given explicit permission to send any and all traffic to the party from whom transit is being bought? You mean ISP X who buys transit from NSP Y can't point default at them? Why not? Isn't that what they are paying for?
Ok, say I sell transit, say over a point to point 10 meg ethernet from my POP to the customer. This customer may also be connected to MAE-East with say a gigaswitch port. Just because I provide this customer a 10 meg transit connection does NOT give them the right to point default to me at MAE-East or any other NAP. If it was OK for providers to do that, then I have a great new business. Why not start a www farm and provide hosting for very good prices. We then buy a T1 into any major NSP and get a gigaswitch connection at MAE-East. So we are spending around 7K a month for access, now we just point default to a NSP and we are set. Since you are a web farm, most of your data is outgoing so for a little money you get a lot of bandwidth. Am I the only one out there the thinks it is not ethical to point default to a provider over a NAP without their permission? Just because someone sells you transit does not give you the right to point default to them at a NAP. Sure you can point default all day long over the connection you are buying, but not over a NAP without their permission. Nathan Stratton President, CTO, NetRail,Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his great strength. - Psalm 33:16
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- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s, (continued)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s Nathan Stratton (Sep 12)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s Avi Freedman (Sep 12)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s Alex.Bligh (Sep 12)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s Avi Freedman (Sep 12)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s Nathan Stratton (Sep 12)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s Avi Freedman (Sep 12)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s Nathan Stratton (Sep 12)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s Neil J. McRae (Sep 16)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s bmanning (Sep 12)
- Definition of transit Bradley Dunn (Sep 12)
- Re: Definition of transit Nathan Stratton (Sep 12)
- Re: Definition of transit Avi Freedman (Sep 12)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s Alex.Bligh (Sep 13)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ... Sean M. Doran (Sep 13)
- Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ... Naiming Shen (Sep 12)