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Re: SMURF amplifier block list
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () scfn thpl lib fl us>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:59:41 -0400
On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 04:00:33PM -0400, Charley Kline wrote:
No, IMHO, the comment stands: no matter _what_ size your network is, if you assign host addresses with a .0 or .255 final octet, things may break, and you deserve what you get.Again, the likelihood that these addresses will cause problems or experience connectivity issues is a far greater concern than the gain of less than 1% of usable address space.
Watch your quoting, Charley; I said the first thing; someone else the latter.
What bullshit. Am I hearing people advocating deliberately breaking perfectly valid addresses in order to not have to tax our poor brains for a proper solution?
The problem is one of leverage, Charley. If I do assign .255 to a host, then I'm at the mercey of the entire friggin Internet. If I _don't_... then I'm in control. Yes, it's ugly, but (as they used to say in the navy) "that's fine sonny, but this here's the Fleet."
Filtering out all x.x.x.255 addresses is a very bad idea. It's a quick-and-dirty, poorly-thought-out hack. There are lots of .0 and .255 addresses in use in variously sized net blocks. We don't get to simply say "well too bad." Especially coming from the same people who advocated classless addressing to begin with. The byte boundaries are meaningless. We all said so.
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