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Re: More Sidgemore on per-bit pricing
From: Dean Anderson <dean () av8 com>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 19:31:25 -0500
At 06:43 PM 12/9/1998 -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
I was just saying how you could lower the cost of the ADSL loop from around $150 to $30, with both you would need to supply the IP. The idea would be that you would not just use the port for internet traffice. You would provide voice services, you would provice VOD (video on demand), and cable services (using something like I Magic TV).Oh yeah, I got that, Nathan. It's just that I get miffed when people keep going on (don't take this personal) about how cool it is that I can get my loop down from $300 to $150... when my router port is still $1800. Nice, yeah, but not what people mean when they blather about "cheap bandwidth". If it's _that_ cheap, it's running under completely different assumptions than a standard T-1; viz: cable modems.
Um, actually, I think think you can get DSLAM's for about $700 per port or less going by my recent informal surveys. Router ports have been way overpriced for a long time. They were overpriced when an AGS sold for 30K with a stack of ethernet, serial, and an fddi port. Of course, back then the pricing model optimistically expected to sell only a few thousand. They got even more overpriced later, and now expect to sell hundreds of thousands. What I've yet to find out is what sort of latency one gets with a DSL modem as compared to a DSU... I'm not sure DSL is somehow inferior technology (as Bob Metcalfe seems to think from an article several years ago), or if it just represents a (slight) change and a collapse of the fee structure. --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean () av8 com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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- Re: More Sidgemore on per-bit pricing David Diaz (Dec 09)
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