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Re: RBL Update (Re: Lets go vixie!! rbl)
From: Henry Linneweh <linneweh () concentric net>
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:22:36 -0700
Attached is an example of how hotmail blocks outgoing spam mail to help you in your determinations and their abuse policy of spam Henry Paul Mansfield wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Richard Welty wrote:ethical sysadmins/isps, of course, inform their users of the RBL regardless.we use Exim (http://www.exim.org) to handle mail, and we don't block on RBL active, but there's a standard setting to add a header to indicate that the mail was received from an RBL'd host... thus allowing our customers to filter if they want. has anyone ever heard of an ISP blocking their own customer if their customer is in the RBL? I'd love to hear a telephone call between ISP and customer if this occurred!!! Paul ---- P Mansfield, Senior SysAdmin PSINet, +44-1223-577577x2611/577611 fax:577600 :r~/humour/signature :wq
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