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Re: Rootshell pages hacked


From: "Alex P. Rudnev" <alex () Relcom EU net>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:00:09 +0300 (MSK)

Btw. I know exactly where does hackers get troyaned SSHD from, and I am 
sure they begin to install it more and more. We can't exclude if some day 
the original SSH daemon /or, for a joke, Microsoft NT/) will be troyaned 
from the very start point.




On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Michael Freeman wrote:

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:30:11 +0000 (Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page)
From: Michael Freeman <mikef () boris talentsoft com>
To: "Alex P. Rudnev" <alex () relcom EU net>
Cc: dhiraj murthy <soa () funkytekno exodus net>,
    "Adam D. McKenna" <adam () flounder net>, Joe Shaw <jshaw () insync net>,
    JR Mayberry <rick () magpage com>, neil <neil () junior uwc ac za>,
    Russ Haynal <russ () navigators com>, nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Rootshell pages hacked

Me three.  If they don't turn up I think I am going to make the
modifications myself. I am using an old s/key implmentation though, from
thumper.bellcore.net I believe, anyone know of any others? Thanks.

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Alex P. Rudnev wrote:

Btw, it's of great interest for me too.


On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, dhiraj murthy wrote:

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:49:19 -0500 (EST)
From: dhiraj murthy <soa () funkytekno exodus net>
To: "Alex P. Rudnev" <alex () Relcom EU net>
Cc: Michael Freeman <mikef () boris talentsoft com>,
    "Adam D. McKenna" <adam () flounder net>, Joe Shaw <jshaw () insync net>,
    JR Mayberry <rick () magpage com>, neil <neil () junior uwc ac za>,
    Russ Haynal <russ () navigators com>, nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Rootshell pages hacked

I am trying to get ssh working with skey. anyone know where to get patches
to force 1.2.6 to do this?

thanks,

-dhiraj

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Alex P. Rudnev wrote:

SSh withouth S/KEy or some kind of one time password is useless in case 
of any compromyse passwords (except the case when you'd like to restrict 
acxcess to the trusted set of hosts). SSH itself do not believe to be a 
problem, UNIX one-time passwords are real problem. Another bad problem is 
_the same UNIX password for all purposes_ - I can sniff your FTP password 
and use it for SSH access (for example).





On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, Michael Freeman wrote:

Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:45:51 +0000 (Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page)
From: Michael Freeman <mikef () boris talentsoft com>
To: "Adam D. McKenna" <adam () flounder net>
Cc: Joe Shaw <jshaw () insync net>, JR Mayberry <rick () magpage com>,
    neil <neil () junior uwc ac za>, Russ Haynal <russ () navigators com>,
    nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Rootshell pages hacked

It is not a fucking problem in SSH! Jesus christ, people do not listen.
If it had anything to do with ssh, heres what happened. (speculation) A
trusted host was compromised that Kit Knox or another rootshell staff
member used, ssh was trojaned and passwords were snagged, and the intruder
simply walked right in through the front door. Nothing sophisticated,
nothing fancy, no ssh remote exploits.

On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Adam D. McKenna wrote:

They claim they were running only qmail, apache and ssh, but who knows if
that's true.

I have heard rumours about an ssh exploit but nothing concrete.

--Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shaw <jshaw () insync net>
To: JR Mayberry <rick () magpage com>
Cc: neil <neil () junior uwc ac za>; Russ Haynal <russ () navigators com>;
nanog () merit edu <nanog () merit edu>
Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Rootshell pages hacked


I thought they were runnign qmail?

Joe

On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, JR Mayberry wrote:

Supposedly sendmail 8.9.1 is to blame, not ssh.
http://www.sendmail.com/sendmail.8.9.1a.html







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Aleksei Roudnev, Network Operations Center, Relcom, Moscow
(+7 095) 194-19-95 (Network Operations Center Hot Line),(+7 095) 239-10-10, N 13729 (pager)
(+7 095) 196-72-12 (Support), (+7 095) 194-33-28 (Fax)




Aleksei Roudnev, Network Operations Center, Relcom, Moscow
(+7 095) 194-19-95 (Network Operations Center Hot Line),(+7 095) 239-10-10, N 13729 (pager)
(+7 095) 196-72-12 (Support), (+7 095) 194-33-28 (Fax)



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