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Re: Digital Bill of Rights


From: Phil Howard <phil () whistler intur net>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:30:39 -0600 (CST)

Bob Allisat wrote:

 Mail is mail is mail in my opinion. 
 And what you do on a *private* server
 is your own business. Once that server
 opens for general public usage the
 obligation is to simply deliver the
 god-damned mail. Not snif or steam or
 read the addresses to see if they are
 kosher. We have our rights and freedoms
 in a civil society. One day they will
 be integrated into our laws and various
 constitutions. Until then I guess 
 Public ISPs will continue to get away
 with abuses.

Since my mail server is NOT open for public usage, the above does not
apply to it.  My mail server is restricted to my customers and those
whom my customers wish to receive mail from.


 In my opinion all this RBL nonsense is
 vastly more destructive in the long
 term than a few ad e-mails. You may
 agree to disagree. That too is your
 right. However you still may not block,
 manipulate or deny any mail directed at
 me. *UNLESS* I explicitly give you that
 permission. Otherwise - buzz of boys.
 You're treading on dangerous ground.

As a matter of fact, I agree with "all this RBL nonsense is vastly
more destructive in the long term than a few ad e-mails".  However,
it is not the case that we are dealing with "a few ad e-mails".
Ad e-mail is not the problem.  Unsolicited bulk e-mail is.

Since Bob Allisat is not my customer, I do not need to worry about
whether he gives or does not give any permission.  Permissions that
matter to us come from our customers.

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