Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users

[Rich Sena <ras () poppa clubrich tiac net>]

Hey Sheryl - I was originally pretty vocal against this - I worked for an
isp that faced this issue but to tell you the truth I have definately
changed my tune - the account that was created on your network for
webservice was deliberately created with that in mind to be a listing add
in a spam from another ISP - this more than likely is the same person
who's account you just cancelled for spamming using your network - except
now s/he has gotten "smart" and think they've found a loophole. It's
better for all involved if you close the loophole.  No one will be able to
act on her/him from the throw away isp's that s/he uses - they could care
less if that account gets nuked - but the site is the dealio - that is
their profit - so they sanitize it so that there is no excuse for nuking
it.

I would just modify your AUP to include a "spamvertised site" clause.

On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Sheryl Chapin wrote:

> > That's right. It stops the practice of using a sacrificial account, from
> > AOL or netcom, to spam for a web-site that is otherwise protected. Does it
> > make a difference that they didn't spam from their own ISP? That customer
> > is *still* a spammer whether they did it from your site or not. Maybe
> > you're of the "It's alright as long as they don't do it here" crowd? Well,
> > that's one of the things that the RBL was built for. The rest of us don't
> > have to put up with your negligence.
>
>
> I don't see it as "it's alright as long as they don't do it here".  I see
> it as "I have control over my network, but not over anyone elses".  I have
> an AUP that specifically states spamming is not allowed.  I have kicked off
> users who have spammed.  However, I do not have an AUP that says "If you
> ever spam anyone ever in the world on any network anywhere I will
> disconnect whatever service you have".   I don't control the entire
> internet, just my little piece of it. :-)
>
>
> Sheryl Chapin
> Senior Network Engineer
> CommTel Internet    207.377.3508
> Winthrop, Maine     schapin () ctel net

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